Drums (Tips Needed)

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Just curious... I've got these drums...
Looking for some thoughts on what I should do to them
To make them sound better.
I'm mainly concerned about the snare but any thoughts on all of them?

http://www.fronder.com/bands/388/music.php
"Sample Beat"

And Giles... if by chance you read this...
Yes, the drums were recorded in the same 10 x 10 room I mix in.
 
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Come on... 19 views... Numerous listens... No comments?
 
Nevermind then...
I guess wither it is fine or it's so bad that no one wants to comment.
 
So these are all miked drums?????

or is the kick and tom samples?
 
without sounding like a total amateur tit, they're fine. they're drums. i think (in my own, guitarist opinion) that drums and bass are the sort of instruments you can only judge properly when listening to them in the context of a song. am i stupid? or am i right? but perhaps you may find thats why other's havent been commenting much.
 
Giles... They are all samples... I recorded myself a sample set.

Thanks brummy... I play mainly punk and "hardcore-ish" stuff.
I think they will do well.
 
I'm not sure I like the snare sound though...
I used two mics so I may try a different blend of them...
Or only use one of them.
 
i've never heard drum sounds like that. they sound very tight and round
 
Personally, I think the bassdrum doesn't have enough click for your style. It's too boomy, and the snare could get more snap, try resampling the snare, maybe using an other mic, or change your mic position, or you can try to put some good compression on there.

That bell on the ride doesn't seem right also, I don't really like judging drums ALONE because it's easy to be fussy about every little details of the drum, but I guess that in a heavy mix, the cymbals and ride would be killer.

If you have mics, I suggest you record your drum live when you are recording, so you can get good dynamics in your songs.

thx
 
Thanks guys.
I do generally record live drums
But I needed samples for some hit replacement.

I agree about the snare...
I have some better samples from the same session.
The beauty of using multiple mics :)

Also, keep in mind that I did not use any effects (EQ, Compression, etc...)
At all on this. This is just raw samples...

Although I may have added a small amount of reverb, probably to the snare.
I don't really remember anymore.
 
I agree about the statement on the kick. It's too round, to hip-hopish. If you had one, I'd try an AKG D112 in there. That should give you the attack you're looking for.
 
I don't $200 for a new mic right now.

The kick drum has not been EQ'd at all...
I can introduce more of the click when I mix.
Thanks for the thoughts though, they are very much appreciated.

edit...

So if anyone has any thoughts on how to EQ the kick drum...
I'd appreciate that.
I want it to still sound natural for the sake of my samples
but I'm willing to experiment.
 
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For punk/hardcore, these drums are extremely flat. It sounds a bit like cardboard and the snare sounds like a tom. Definitely not digging it. The overheads need to be a lot hotter with a lot more high end.
 
Flat? Sorry about my ignorance but what exactly do you mean by flat?
 
They don't have any depth to them. The toms blend together and have no punch and there's really just not much differentiation between any of the kit's pieces.
 
Okay so, here is where you give suggestions on how to fix that.
Hence the title of the post, "Tips Needed"

I really want people to help. I really am trying to learn
But in order to do that...
I need people to offer substantial suggestions on 'how'

Sorry if I'm being rude but I really want help with this.
 
So... From what I gather from your post... The tuning is bad?
Is that it? Meaning the toms sound too similar to each other?
The snare I have under control, I had to reblend the mics...

The punchiness...
I'm assuming this is something a compressor could help with?
 
I have a question...
When comparing the original sounds as they were tracked...

http://www.fronder.com/bands/388/music.php
"New Drum Samples (Raw)"

To the "edited"

http://www.fronder.com/bands/388/music.php
"Sample Beat"

Do they sound better on one or the other, or the same just arranged.
To me it sounds like somewhere along the way, in the editing
(separating hits and cropping them down) or something, I lost a bit of realism.

Edit:
Also...
"New Drum Samples (Raw)"
Was converted to mp3 directly from 24-Bit/88.2 Khz
While "Sample Beat" was converted from 16-Bit/44.1 Khz.

Should there have been that big of a degradation in quality?
 
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The kick isn't the problem in it. I couldn't tell if the other piece was a tom or a snare.
Tune the snare up and bring the highs up on it. Until it's tuned up, I can't say much about the EQ on it.
The toms could use some reverb since they really don't have any resonance to them. Actually, probably everything could use some reverb. Once the snare is tuned up a little bit, do a 1-2 beat with cymbals included, maybe some tom work - but your main issue is the snare.
 
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