Drum triggers?

[ecktronic]

Anyone know of any software that will let me swap a sample (snare) for a recorded snare track. By this I mean that the software will create a new snare track which will be indetical-ish to the original snare track in terms of dynamics and timing, but the snare will be a sample.

Cheers.

Eck

 

[MadAudio]

I believe Drumagog does that, but that's only based on what I've read here.

 

[ecktronic]

Cheers. Downloading a demo version now.

Eck

 

[ecktronic]

Cheers. Downloading a demo version now.

Eck

Downloaded the Drumagog demo and although there are 4 different samples to choose from when I render the wave it uses the tekno bass drum sample rather than the Brass snare sample that I choose.
I can hear the snare sample when listening to the track playing with the Drumagog plug-in on, but once rendered it is not the snare sample but the tekno kik sample!

Anyone tried the demo and got the same problem?

Eck

 

[Farview]

I've never tried the demo but I know the real version won't do that. The real version also comes with hundreds of samples, not just the 4.

 

[Canobliss]

There is also sound replacer, i believe by Digidesign, but you need your own samples for that.

 

[Farview]

There is also sound replacer, i believe by Digidesign, but you need your own samples for that.

And it only works in Protools.

 

[Squashki]

I don't fully understand drum triggers, surely if the sample sound replaces all the hits on the snare mic track, you would still get the sound of the original snare from the overheads etc? Or does this not make a difference?

 

[TimOBrien]

A MIDI hit can trigger ANY sound. You have to specify which sample gets played for each numbered note's hit.

'Thats the beauty of MIDI, anything can be anything....

 

[Squashki]

A MIDI hit can trigger ANY sound. You have to specify which sample gets played for each numbered note's hit.

'Thats the beauty of MIDI, anything can be anything....

So can drum triggers only be used on MIDI files?

 

[Farview]

I don't fully understand drum triggers, surely if the sample sound replaces all the hits on the snare mic track, you would still get the sound of the original snare from the overheads etc? Or does this not make a difference?

Drumagog will allow you to make the overheads duck when the snare is hit. This minimises the problem of the snare in the overheads. I have never had to do this, I only think it is a problem when the real snare was something so completely inapropriate that you have to get rid of all traces. (ie, a cranked piccolo snare on a power ballad)

 

[Farview]

So can drum triggers only be used on MIDI files?

OK, lets get the terminology straight. Drum triggers are the things that you clamp to your drums and plug into a drum brain. When you hit the drum, it triggers the sound (or midi note).

Drumagog, sound replacer, drum rehab, apptrigga, are all sound replacers. They use the audio on a wav file to trigger a sound (or midi note)

 

[Squashki]

OK, lets get the terminology straight. Drum triggers are the things that you clamp to your drums and plug into a drum brain. When you hit the drum, it triggers the sound (or midi note).

Drumagog, sound replacer, drum rehab, apptrigga, are all sound replacers. They use the audio on a wav file to trigger a sound (or midi note)

Ah, thanks. Got a bit confused there.

 

[ecktronic]

Cheers for the reply Farview and all.
Farview, I noticed a panel in the Drumagog demo that had loads of different boxes that flashed when you played the track you want to change.
Is this lots of different sample hits that it kinda randomises so that the outcome doesnt sound generic and sample like?

 

[Farview]

Yes, there are different velocity (volume) layers and several samples in each layer. Drumagog reads the volume of the hit it is replacing and randomly picks one of the samples in the appropriate velocity layer. That way, if the drummer is very even, all the hits don't all sound the same.