Drum track sample/critique

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check it out guys...

just drums and bass to an upcoming song (and no the title is not really "i love you" hahaha)

so far im pretty happy, but i thought it'd be fun to share and hear opinions

so gimme yours!!!

I Love You Aug 15th Version by Seconds To September on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

and i know that around the end there is some slight phase issue due to me accidentally shifting one of the OH tracks back a couple miliseconds... caught it and fixed it since this was uploaded... :P WOOPSIES!
 
Sounds decent to me. The kick is a little thin and boxy. Find the boxiness in the low mids and gently scoop em out. You'll hear it get a little tighter but deeper. Then maybe boost the super lows, like 50-70hz a tiny bit. Snare is kind of sloppy. If you close mic'd it, bring that mic in more. I'd like to hear more attack/crack from it. Also try flipping the phase on the kick and snare tracks. It can fatten things up and sound good. Toms sound good. Overheads have very little space or spread. I'd like em wider, but that's personal taste. But overall, not too bad.
 
Boy Greg...that's more critique than I've seen you post in a long time.

Usually you keep it simple....

"sounds ass"

or

"not bad".

I know how much you hate typing.

;) :D
 
Ah the kick phase invert was a great suggestion.... much more full.. also did a bit of EQ tweaking in the kick... and i liked the snare suggestion aswell.

this was all close mic'd and overheads.. 10 mics total.

2 on snare, 2 on kick, 4 toms each had 1 mic... 2 OH.. (room is kinda crummy so the OH's i must work on.

upload to come in a few
 
Yeah I think it's better overall. Get some other instruments in there and see how it goes.
 
miroslav said:
Boy Greg...that's more critique than I've seen you post in a long time.

Usually you keep it simple....

"sounds ass"

or

"not bad".

I know how much you hate typing.

;) :D
Click to expand...

:laughings: :laughings:

I ate my wheaties this morning.
 
Greg_L said:
Get some other instruments in there and see how it goes.
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Yup...this is the key, not to mentoin...vocals! :eek:

It's one thing to get a set of bed tracks balanced...but then when you add the leads and assorted "accents", plus vocals...then the priorities shift, and you have to readjust everything, which is why mixing partial tracks is not a good idea, unless it's just a rough cue mix so you can continue recording.
 
well thats exactly what it is there Miro :)... but as i just stated in a different post... drums... to me... are THE most important... its what i tend to compare everything else to.

for now this was the sole purpose on just sharing the drums :D, see what you guys thought.

im aware that it will change as soon as the rest of the instruments come in... but not a ton, which is what i want.

but as you stated, it a a "cue mix" so to speak.

just lovin the drums and drum beat!!! figured i'd share haha
 
Yes...I agree, and have said many times on other forums that drums are the most important element in Rock/Pop/modern (last 60 years) music. Even though I'm not a drummer, and I love my guitars and leads and all that "surface candy"...
...drums are the anchor, the foundation, which is why I've spent a large chunk of $$$ on my studio drum kit and accessories, and not just my guitars and amps. :D

That said...I will say that I also don't think that drums need to be always in-your-face-up-front, and I do notice that a lot of folks these days tend to mix drums way too forward in the mix, so that it becomes all about the drums.
Sure, there are songs where the drums have to really pound and pop, but there are those where they need to be pulled back into the mix, and be there without being too obvious...and that's not just on slow ballads.

I have a slower ballad (will probably post it in the HR song contest next month) where the snare is really loud and has a hard punch to it, and the whole kit is more forward, but on that song, I felt it was needed to keep it solid and moving because it was slow yet intended to be a punchy song.

Still, even when the drums need to be up front, I think you should make the more final mix decisions when all the tracks are done, otherwise you can end up like a lot of the Hip-Hop, "makin' beats" guys, who then cry about not being able to make the vocals sit well with their beats...usually 'cuz they mixed all the beats, and then did the vocals almost as an afterthought.

Anyway...I'm just saying, don't get too far ahead with the mix until you have all the tracks. :)
 
yea i agree with all that ya said but to add a bit.. its not necessarily about being in your face at times... its morely finding a place for things to SIT well in a mix... i usually to keep the 100-200hz for the deeps of the kit and the 4khz range (give or take)for the nice click to punch through... with the snare i try to keep 2-3khz open for that nice crack sound that i enjoy ever-so greatly :P

Captives of Gravity AUG 22nd by Seconds To September on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free


but i think im doing a pretty decent job on doing exactly that... getting that kick and snare to punch through without being overly loud.
one of my (WIP) full mixes that i've been fiddling with.. (i just posted it on another topic.. hopefully people dont get mad at me hehe)
 
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