drum software?

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hello.

looking for software to create drum parts. my understanding of the process is that you start with wav drum samples and then set the order through which they run in a program.

using laptop and cakewalk - although i have sonar update. read some recommendations for fruityloops but wouldnt the program be redundant with sonar/cakewalk?

dont have a midi

a few questions:
what is the difference between a sequencer and a tracker?

any words on the following names?
hammerhead
moonfish
tuareg
Little drummer boy
Stomper Hyperion
fasttracker2

my interest is in reggae and african polyrhythms. i've looked at the layout of what i guess are sequencers - grids where you place the sound/sample to be played, and the grid runs through the order in time. regarding these grids:
how would you throw a triplet over the place of say two eight notes? my thinking is that you either lay the beat out in 6/8 where one row of the sequencer is in three - each eigth note could then be alternated with a group of three. but what about a slower triplet = 2 eigth notes??? just the way the slots line up. can you produce a three over two rhythm with the software. or even a single line that varies between a triplet and eight note pulse. it seems that this would be prohibited by the nature of the grid itself where you cant push slots to fall inbetween each other. ??? or run one row faster than another.

it seems you would have to set up all your parts with threes and then record them at a certain speed. and then setup and record the parts with twos at a diiferent speed, leaving the appropriate whole for the threes. and then combine the tracks? pretty tough to juggle speeds i'd imagine so when you put them together they sound like a single line. ???
 
I only know Hammerhead from the list you gave.
Hammerhead is a simple, fast-working program, but DEFINITELY not for Reggae rhythms etc.

If you want to use software, buy FruityLoops. That quite multi-sided.

But I would recommend you just to buy a drum computer.

Maarten.
 
...or a drumset...

Making a 6/8 is difficult with most drumsoftware, but not with drumcomputers.
 
triplets in fruity loops

There's another thread going on right now about Fruity Loops:

https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=28904&highlight=fruity

I figured out a way to do triplets using the software, yesterday in fact. (the relevant post is copied below). I don't know how to change time sig, though. I don't know if you can.

Pete


PeteAnon said:
I like this-- I just put together a little funk/jazz thing using 2 dudes samples. Very nice... much better than the built in stuff.

But Gidge, you'll love this--you mentioned that FL doesn't support "velocity".... I've been playing around .... ;) check out the "graph editor". On the step sequencer, it's a little button in the upper right hand corner that looks like a bar graph. I'm using the FL 3.0 demo, by the way.

Select a channel, say your snare, and then press the graph editor button.

A little bar graph pops up, with a bar of the graph for each step. With this you can control:

Velocity! There's a volume option that allows you to set volume separately for any snare hit in the channel. It doesn't sound exactly like a change in velocity, but it adds volume dynamics and creates the impression of velocity.

Triplets! It took me a while to figure this out.... one thing that seemed like a major flaw in FL was an innability to play triplets. You can actually create hits completely out of time, if you want-- makes it sound much more real (human!). On the very same graph editor, choose "Shift". This allows you to time-shift any snare hit in the channel.

Here's how you do triplets-- highlight the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd sixteenth note of the first beat in the measure (on one channel, say the snare). Then, with the graph editor, shift the 2nd sixteenth note by 1/3 of a sixteenth note, and shift the 3rd sixteenth note by 2/3 a sixteenth note.

It's cool!

Pete
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ok

i was worried noone would get what i'm asking.

whats a drum computer? why isnt the software that runs on a drum computer available to run on regular computer.

i used to have a decent set - but it got sold to finance some other venture.

i read that fruity loops post.

i'm not familiar with Sonar yet, but i understand that they've included a loop editor with it. anyone use it? similar to fruityloops?

maybe just create two different samples in a loop editor - one straight, one in threes. then import them as two different tracks into editor. then cut out section of straight time where i'd like a little triplet thrown in. and then cut out the triplet, paste it into place and stretch it to fit??? have to do some experimenting
 
A drum computer is more like a piece of equipment, not really a computer, just a machine.
 
check this out

this is a description of tuareg. its the latest by BramBros - the makers of hammerhead. he says "drumcomputer"

its got three parts to the program, one is:

"The RaGE unit (Rapid Groove Editor) is a built-in 8 channel drumcomputer that lets you create groovy percussive patterns without leaving Tuareg. Once you have created a pattern, Tu treats it like any other (wav-)sample, but the cool thing is that you can still edit these loops as often as you like..."

the other two are:

This is the main interface of Tuareg, currently in "channelmode". Which means you can access all the available tools to manipulate the sample playing in this channel. Effects in this panel, like the Variator, the Filter-sweeps and the Panorama are non-destructive so you can fiddle around with 'em and experiment as much as you like...

The BLiSS unit (BassLine Sequencer System) is a quick & dirty 4 channel bassline sequencer for simple melodic loops. It contains a number of features to make your sound go wild, like a braintearing distortion, a "FAT" function and rubber "slides".

im looking at http://www.brambos.com/index2.htm
 
one more thing

maybe this shoudl be its own thread, but whats the difference between Fruity Loops and sonic foundrys ACID - which gets pretty good reviews
 
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