drum clips

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is it good or bad to record drums with mic clips on the rims? i don't have enough stands but i have enough clips.
 
BAD IDEA!!! The viberations from the drums will travel right into your clips and into the mics...sounds really bad...try positioning the few mic stands you have so that you can put a mic in the clip like normal...then clip your drum mic clips to the stand instead of the drums. You will be much happier....even if you dont get it exactly where you want it...it will be better than clipping it to the drums...

jeremy
 
damn. i need like 3 more stands then. i have two boom stands for overheads and and low boom stand for the kick. i guess i'm in the market for 3 more boom stands.
 
use the low stand to see if you can reach between the toms and maybe you can use a clip to get 2 mics up there...maybe you can clip the kick mic to the base of the stand. You may also want to add some extra weight to the base of the stand to keep it from tipping over....duct tape something to it. This still leaves you with needing a snare mic though.... This set up may have to do until then. If you position things right, you should be able to get the snare in the overheads. This wont be a perfect setup but it will get the job done til you get more gear...
 
What? Honestly...you think that mic clips are bad? Then why the heck do they design drum mic clips for recording mic sets like samsons or audix? True they do make some clips better than others. For instance, most of my newer ones have small shock mounts on them. But for the most part, mic clips aren't bad at all. Very rarily will u run into a problem. Atleast in my experiences. Correct me if I misunderstood. But when it comes to drums... Mic clips are designed for that purpose.
 
From my experiences with them, they are not "ideal" for recording but for a live setup, they are fine. You have the clips, why not give them a shot? Maybe instead of clipping to the rims try clipping to a cymbal stand or tom arm. If it's not good get a couple stands.
 
I've been recording my band's rehearsals and I've been using LP Claws on the toms. No serious transduction of vibration that I can hear. I'm doing it multitrack (man, do I go through disk space fast!), so I've soloed the individual tom tracks and heard nothing unpleasant.
 
yeah you could try clipping them to something other than a rim. But for the most part, as long as you're careful not to set them up anywhere that causes noticable vibrations, they are fine.
 
welp...all i can do is tell ya what I have experianced...maybe I was using cheap clips..i dunno...they belonged to the drummer i was recording....and it sounded horrible...I have since stocked up on boom stands and dont bother with clips anymore...
 
depending on what mic you are talking about, some of them are great even if they are clips (Bluebear have already used some C418 for example). I use some C419 sometimes, works great!

If you are talking about a clip for an SM57 for example, that may not be a very good idea, since there is no shock mount on the clip, but they can workout if you play around with them I guess, but I have to experience with them.
 
I've worked with an sm57 on a small shock mount clip before. That seems to be the answer then. Just get a clip with a shock mount on it. They do make them for any type of drum mic.
 
I've heard of some peoples sm-57s getting odd vibrations from the clips, but most of the time from what I've witnessed, clips work fine. Really with proper placement, your drums sound no different than stands, and even sometimes better because of proper placement. Experiment.
 
clips arent to bad in my experiences used aclaw thing for awhile with no probs. use a set of beta 98s live all the time and the only time if had probs with a rattle it was on a conga. try it, if it sounds like crap put it on a stand. u can use the clips and attach them to other things than the rims also. most can be adjusted to mount on stands, drum legs, or whatever.
 
i have shure clips that came with the shure drum mic kit. they are made from bendy plastic and bounce around a bit when you hit the drum. so i would assume this would help the mic not to get messed up with vibrations. they were probably designed to do just that. i'm sure using separate stands is ideal but the clips can't be THAT bad.
 
What about the Sennhiser clips? the e602 i think?

I've recorded with them and they all work fine.
 
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