SteveAlton
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Hey
You can only use one effect at a time....SEND 2 is for an outboard effect.....
You can only use one effect at a time....SEND 2 is for an outboard effect.....
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CrisF
New member
Thanks, Steve.
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RustyAxe
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I just did the upgrade to the new firmware, and sure enough, EQ settings are NOT saved. Sent message to Tascam support via their website, and got a message back that they're all at NAMM this weekend. I reverted back to the previous firmware version which works fine (well, except for the stuff that was fixed and NOT broken in the later version!).
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BANGING-BILLY
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There are two effects sends. The first one is designed for the built-in effects. The second effect send is used for an external effect of your choice.
Next, the DP-24 supports "insert effects" too. An insert effect is not controlled by the effects send1 knob.
Insert effects route your channel strip (track) into an available effect. This is a more severe effect and is probably less useful for vocals and more useful for a guitar. You must select the mode record, or play.
Next, there are dynamic effects that you can put on the input a-h. These effects are helpful, but will be recorded on your track.
The input section is genius because it allows you to use electronic cross connects. The input section has the option to be routed to a track or the stereo bus.
The thing to keep in mind is that for more control you will want to record your effects. Now, with an external effect, you can return it into the input section and route it to a track for recording.
If you want to record the built in effects, there are many options. But, in general, you could set up a pre fader send to effect 1. Then do a bounce. The send effect 1 (built in) is returned on the bounce bus. So, to record a nice effect that you can fully control later during mix down for vocals, set the effect 1 to Pre on the vocal track. Then turn the send knob for effect 1 on the vocal track to 100. Set the master effect 1 to 100. Why 100 and not all the way up? Because, anything over 100 will start to boost---that's not usually good.
Next, rewind your virtual tape to the start of the recording. Next, select bounce. Press the green select on the vocal track (the one with the pre send set to 100). Next, slide the fader all the way down to infinity on this vocal track. Why? Because you want to record 100% of the effect with no leakage of the real vocal track.
Next, hit the record button on the availabe destination track(s). It is best to use a single track unless you are relying on a stereo effect---like delay auto panning. In that case, you need to hit the red record button on two single tracks or just select one stereo track. If you use two single tracks, the lowest numbered track will be the left side. The higher numbered track will be your right side. Make sure you adjust the panning for playback.
Now, you are all set. Hit the record button. Now, what's happening is you are bouncing your vocal track to the destination tracks. But, since the vocal track fader is slid all the way down you are not really recording the vocal track. Instead, you are recording the return of the internal effects that is now routed to the bounce bus. In turn, the bounce bus is being recorded by the one or two tracks you armed. So, you end up with 100% effect only on your destination tracks.
Okay, after fully recording, get out of bounce mode by pressing the bounce button. Now, turn off the send effect on the vocal track and turn the effect send 1 on the vocal track to zero. Now, slide the vocal fader back up to where it sounds right.
What next?
Well, hit play and slide the faders up that were previously used as destinations for your bounce. Again, check the panning if you are using two single tracks. This will add your vocal effects that were just recorded.
Why did I do this?
Well, this frees up your effects to be used for something else in exchange for taking up 1 or 2 tracks. But, most importantly, this eases your workload during mix down. You can set the vocal effect, and increase or decrease it during mix down by moving the fader(s) of the effect recording.
This increases the number of effects you can have but it does take up 1 or 2 tracks. You can use the virtual track on the effects tracks to record different variation of effects. You can switch effects quickly during mix down by selecting the appropriate v-track when you need it.
Next, the DP-24 supports "insert effects" too. An insert effect is not controlled by the effects send1 knob.
Insert effects route your channel strip (track) into an available effect. This is a more severe effect and is probably less useful for vocals and more useful for a guitar. You must select the mode record, or play.
Next, there are dynamic effects that you can put on the input a-h. These effects are helpful, but will be recorded on your track.
The input section is genius because it allows you to use electronic cross connects. The input section has the option to be routed to a track or the stereo bus.
The thing to keep in mind is that for more control you will want to record your effects. Now, with an external effect, you can return it into the input section and route it to a track for recording.
If you want to record the built in effects, there are many options. But, in general, you could set up a pre fader send to effect 1. Then do a bounce. The send effect 1 (built in) is returned on the bounce bus. So, to record a nice effect that you can fully control later during mix down for vocals, set the effect 1 to Pre on the vocal track. Then turn the send knob for effect 1 on the vocal track to 100. Set the master effect 1 to 100. Why 100 and not all the way up? Because, anything over 100 will start to boost---that's not usually good.
Next, rewind your virtual tape to the start of the recording. Next, select bounce. Press the green select on the vocal track (the one with the pre send set to 100). Next, slide the fader all the way down to infinity on this vocal track. Why? Because you want to record 100% of the effect with no leakage of the real vocal track.
Next, hit the record button on the availabe destination track(s). It is best to use a single track unless you are relying on a stereo effect---like delay auto panning. In that case, you need to hit the red record button on two single tracks or just select one stereo track. If you use two single tracks, the lowest numbered track will be the left side. The higher numbered track will be your right side. Make sure you adjust the panning for playback.
Now, you are all set. Hit the record button. Now, what's happening is you are bouncing your vocal track to the destination tracks. But, since the vocal track fader is slid all the way down you are not really recording the vocal track. Instead, you are recording the return of the internal effects that is now routed to the bounce bus. In turn, the bounce bus is being recorded by the one or two tracks you armed. So, you end up with 100% effect only on your destination tracks.
Okay, after fully recording, get out of bounce mode by pressing the bounce button. Now, turn off the send effect on the vocal track and turn the effect send 1 on the vocal track to zero. Now, slide the vocal fader back up to where it sounds right.
What next?
Well, hit play and slide the faders up that were previously used as destinations for your bounce. Again, check the panning if you are using two single tracks. This will add your vocal effects that were just recorded.
Why did I do this?
Well, this frees up your effects to be used for something else in exchange for taking up 1 or 2 tracks. But, most importantly, this eases your workload during mix down. You can set the vocal effect, and increase or decrease it during mix down by moving the fader(s) of the effect recording.
This increases the number of effects you can have but it does take up 1 or 2 tracks. You can use the virtual track on the effects tracks to record different variation of effects. You can switch effects quickly during mix down by selecting the appropriate v-track when you need it.
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CrisF
New member
Thanks, BB--I'll have to sit down and try your suggestions. I appreciate it.
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Pitti
New member
Don't forget that you can use effect-send 1 in three different ways.
1: using the inbuild effect
2: using a extern effect while set the inbuild effect to off.
3: using the inbuild-effect and a extern effect simultan, because the send 1 output sends the signal also if the inbuild are used,
but it's harder to control.
Btw: Sorry for ma bad english
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Zac Chandler
New member
New guy to the DP-24
Just want to say hi..been reading all of your post very happy I've found u guy's because I'm the proud owner of the Dp 24..all was cool and then I hit the "mark-set" button and it gave me the error mesg that my in was shorter than my out (Lol)..anyway I tried to reverse it and my dp froze ..kept taking me back to zero no matter what I punched in ?..So I re-initialized to factory default but it just put my in and out points both to zero..could'nt chg that either..next called Tascam (we all know what that's like) and I upgraded my firmware (that wasn't easy for me cause the whole download unzipp file converter stuff messes w/mi brain) But all went well after 4 hours of perseverance..upgraded to the ver Dp=24-65.111..Ok so I turn it back on same problem can't get my (in/outs to work..trust me I need them else I can't edit..so started pushing alot of buttons now I'm good to go crazy (I don't even know what I did) lol..but I'm gonna need u guy's for sure Lol..Been working with the Roland Vm3100 pro with Logic for the last 12 yrs so I decided to go with a dedicated unit wish me luck (chk my stuff out if u want I could use the FB..thx again
Just want to say hi..been reading all of your post very happy I've found u guy's because I'm the proud owner of the Dp 24..all was cool and then I hit the "mark-set" button and it gave me the error mesg that my in was shorter than my out (Lol)..anyway I tried to reverse it and my dp froze ..kept taking me back to zero no matter what I punched in ?..So I re-initialized to factory default but it just put my in and out points both to zero..could'nt chg that either..next called Tascam (we all know what that's like) and I upgraded my firmware (that wasn't easy for me cause the whole download unzipp file converter stuff messes w/mi brain) But all went well after 4 hours of perseverance..upgraded to the ver Dp=24-65.111..Ok so I turn it back on same problem can't get my (in/outs to work..trust me I need them else I can't edit..so started pushing alot of buttons now I'm good to go crazy (I don't even know what I did) lol..but I'm gonna need u guy's for sure Lol..Been working with the Roland Vm3100 pro with Logic for the last 12 yrs so I decided to go with a dedicated unit wish me luck (chk my stuff out if u want I could use the FB..thx again
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Wyshwood
New member
Additional to your concerns; I tried recording for 2 hours straight to emulate a choir gig I have in a week. At 24 bit 48 the unit froze at 37 minutes. I dialed back to 16 bit and everything seemed OK. 32Gb card, so all should have been OK. Disappointed to say the least. I got rid of my zoom for this because of similar restrictions.
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Rusrant
New member
Hate to hear that. When it froze did you lose everything? I won't likely be recording a solid 2hr recording, but that is still not good that it crashed!
Rolf Fiesel
New member
does a brand new one.. come with the new firm ware ? 1.02
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RustyAxe
New member
Doesn't matter ... the new firmware is available to download on Tascam's web site. Installation is simple with a USB connection and takes only a few minutes.
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gnelson1948
New member
I will say I've had my DP-24 for almost 2 years, did not start using it until May of 2013 due to traveling. I bought the unit because it was a Tascam product and I have had good luck with these products from Tascam and Teac. Its evident I did not do enough research on the DP-24 so it is all my fault for buying a product I thought was labeled correctly when it comes to 24 channels, and of course that's BS it doesn't have 24 channels to record tracks on, so that is my beef. I know you can get around that, but it still pisses me off that they sell it as a 24 track unit....
Rolf Fiesel
New member
wow 24 ins would be cool !!!
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bigbob64
New member
Took delivery of DP 24 yesterday and have been importing audio files from my PC originally recorded on my Zoom R16 and Yamaha AW1600 and I am impressed with the unit. So far have imported and saved 5 songs and messed about with eq efx pan etc recorded them down to 2 track master then added master effects I like how you can normalize the master as well as add master compression. The DP24 I find is very intuitive and I like how you can edit tracks viewing the wave and copy / paste or insert silence and other functions if needed. I find it far easier to use than the AW1600 as it is quite complicated to understand the menu system in order to edit. The DP24 is also easier than the R16 for me because you can see the screen and levels far more easier and seems easier to get around than the zoom it being more menu driven to get to stuff unlike the DP I love the colour display.
That's my take on the DP24 for those that struggle with the machine I can recommend ProAudioDVDs.com while waiting for the unit to arrive I downloaded the tutorial DVD and found it useful and helpful ( I have no affiliation to this company)
That's my take on the DP24 for those that struggle with the machine I can recommend ProAudioDVDs.com while waiting for the unit to arrive I downloaded the tutorial DVD and found it useful and helpful ( I have no affiliation to this company)
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Angelbabes
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Hi there folks...I am a newbie to the forum so this is my first post...
I have just bought A DP32...and I love it...I also bought a training video too which is for sale if anyone interested...
oh has not seen me since I plugged it in...it is the most creative thing I have ever witnessed...the next thing on my list is to get some monitors to get a better feel of the created music in the real world...
Love the forum...really interesting...Angelbabes
I have just bought A DP32...and I love it...I also bought a training video too which is for sale if anyone interested...
oh has not seen me since I plugged it in...it is the most creative thing I have ever witnessed...the next thing on my list is to get some monitors to get a better feel of the created music in the real world...
Love the forum...really interesting...Angelbabes
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wavewarrior
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Feel the same way about mine.
Try to find some self-powered monitors and try to do some room acoustic work if possible; this will help a lot too. Have fun!