Doubling vs Left Right

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What is the best for an in your face sound?

Doubling the guitar track with delay?
Or Recording it 2 times (or more) and panning it left-right?
 
It depends on what type of music and what the arrangement is like. I have found for most things, recording multiple takes and panning l/r usually provides a thick/full sound while still leaving plenty of real-estate in the center for bass/drums/vocal. Leaving the guitar in the center often muddies up the mix. That is less of a problem with solo acoustic + vocal tracks. However, in that case, I prefer a wide stereo recording of the acoustic, with vocals up the middle.
 
Agreed. Delays add space, not so much fatness. Layering will help aswell.
 
i usually record with 2 mics. a condenser mic placed a bit away from the cab, and a mic directly on the speaker.

then i record two takes for a total of 4 tracks. one take i pan right. the other gets panned left. it makes it a bit fuller if you blend one of the mics on each take inward a bit. gives a nice full sound without having to do TOO many takes.
 
100pan left-right? or multiple guitars panned differently...

(Any Tips here would help)

I recorded with AKG C-1000 a bit away from the amp aiming at the direct cone. And a SM57 as close as possible pointing at the middle of the cone and in front of the cone.
And i'm not really happy with the sound, i want a more in-your-face sound.

Could this be my equipment? (MG-100 amp / case , Gibson Les Paul Studio)
Is this Eq'ing/compression?
 
generally, the middle of the cone in most cases provides you with more treble and buzz than anything else. are you using a 4x12 cab? if you are, try micing the tope right speaker with a condenser mic, roughly between the center of the cone and the edge, off axis slightly with the cone so that the diaghragm of the mic points a touch towards the center but not so much as to make it brittle. the best way to pinpoint it is to wear headphones as you adjust the mic and listen to whats going on in the headphones while you play with the positioning until you get what you're looking for. the mic should be no more than about an inch or so from the grille of the cab. ive found this is where you get the best "beef" of most amps. it depends on what amp though, so you will have to adjust to taste. when youve got your sound roughly the way you like it, throw some blankets up over and around the cab to deaden the room ambience. us this as a guideline and you will get some great tones.

however, lol, keep in mind that if you dont have good bass and drum sounds to start with, the overall staging of your guitars will suffer. and btw, doubling is the key to any rock recording.
 
I couldn't think of a worse mic to use on an amp than a C-1000. Just stop it.
 
lykwydchykyn said:
How are your mids set on the amp?

Fairly high mid tones, almost no low tones and little treble...

They always told me to get an in your face sound, mic the ultra centre of the cone...
(and yes it's an 12inch*4 cab)

How about an SM94 as condensator mic? (or what do you suggest?...)
 
hey there

i always double track rather than process - it just feels better and gives you a nice movement in your sound as very few people (except the really annoyingly accurate ones) play absolutely spot on the money everytime.

works very nicely with acoustic guitars too.

one of the tricks i learnt here was not to hard pan LR but to leave about 10% either side for stuff like pads etc, the guitars will bizarrely enough sound much wider than hard panning which often makes things sound unnaturally wide.

i started doing this a lot after reading it here and it's brought some nice fel to my tracks!

have fun exploring.
 
Farview said:
I couldn't think of a worse mic to use on an amp than a C-1000. Just stop it.

i was thinking the same thing. try just a 57 between cone and edge,than double it.
 
Blor007 said:
They always told me to get an in your face sound, mic the ultra centre of the cone...
(and yes it's an 12inch*4 cab)

How about an SM94 as condensator mic? (or what do you suggest?...)

puttin a mic on the ultra center of the cone will give you a harsh brittle treble tone that could possably sizzle your nuts clean off.
as far as the sm94.........dont bother.
if the good old sm57 is good enough for andy sneap than it is good enough for the world cause he is THE MASTER at recording guitarz.
 
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