Doubling vocals.

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Chewie said:
Good stuff Atterion. I'll try it out but I wasn't really talking about an enamble effect. I just find the vocal to weak. I want it to sound like one person but fuller.
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I've had to employ different 'doubling' techniques for various songs all from the same singer... One song had a perfect EQ on her voice for the main track, and on a second track (not the same take as the primary) I rolled off some of the high-end and added a hint of L-R delay... I panned that track slightly left and kept the levels below the main vox... WOW... I impressed the hell out of myself and wondered why I didn't try this technique on all the other songs before...
Well... even tho it worked great on that one song, trying the same trick on some of the others just out and out blew....
Different songs... different vocal techniques... different mixes...

Just try different things and let your ears guide you...
 
I get great results by making 2 duplicates of the vocal track, pitch shift one about -3 cents, pan about 30-60 to the left or right. pitch shift the next one about +3 cents, pan about 30-60 the opposite way. Keep both dups way lower than the main vox and nudge one forward and one back a taste to prevent phasing.
 
Just asking.

BentRabbit said:
I rolled off some of the high-end and added a hint of L-R delay... I panned that track slightly left and kept the levels below the main vox...
Just try different things and let your ears guide you...
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I hope I don't sound like an idiot but does vox mean main vocal or something? And does L-R Delay mean stereo delay? I just wanna make sure.
 
vox is short or vocal/vocals. not necessarily the main one. you could say background vox or main vox... etc.
 
Hi Chewie...


Yes, 'vox' is just a generic term for 'vocals' and my reference to L-R delay meant a delay that panned from left to right...

Sorry for any confusion... I'm pretty sure my headstone will read 'world's laziest typist' or something along those lines... ;)
 
have them sing the second take about 6-8 feet away from the microphone in a reflective room. not a "polished" effect, but I love the natural reverb sound.
 
Since my voice is "weak" and "thready" (I have asthma) at times, I've doubled my vocal track by making a copy. I pan both to the right (or left depending) but not to the same depth...off by 4-6. Same with EQing and effects..close but not quite the same. This is a trick that my "mentor" taught me (has years more experience on me).
 
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Chewie said:
I've been recording my vocals and doubling them but I don't like how the almost same signals sound together. I suppose I could just add reverb to one or something but I was wondering what people do to get the backgroud vocal to sound more like a background harmony instead of an exact duplicate.
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yes this is a good ting to do try paning them l and r that`s where some of the cool..is...
 
A box fixes it...

TC Helicon "Voice One" (ver 2.0 software available free on their website).
Sing one vocal track, patch the recorded vocal track thru Voice One to a second track. Pick the effect, slip the vocal track, you're done.
Price? About $700 and up on the "BAY"

Oh, you want your voice in harmony? Pick that too... any scale, any mode, or create your own scale, or play a scale via MIDI.

For fun, I just finished having Paul McCartney sing three part harmony with himself (using the Voice One on his original vocal) on the chorus of "Black Bird"... He actually did a pretty good job of singing with himself, but it was too good. I had to dial in some variations on the other two "Paul" tracks to make it more natural.
 
Yfoiler said:
TC Helicon "Voice One" (ver 2.0 software available free on their website).
Sing one vocal track, patch the recorded vocal track thru Voice One to a second track. Pick the effect, slip the vocal track, you're done.
Price? About $700 and up on the "BAY"

Oh, you want your voice in harmony? Pick that too... any scale, any mode, or create your own scale, or play a scale via MIDI.
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How would someone go about doing something like this with a software solution as opposed to hardware?
 
Chewie said:
How would someone go about doing something like this with a software solution as opposed to hardware?
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Take a pitch shifter set it 13 cents up on the left and 13 cents down set the pre delays for between 15 and 30 ms.
 
Yfoiler said:
TC Helicon "Voice One" (ver 2.0 software available free on their website).
Sing one vocal track, patch the recorded vocal track thru Voice One to a second track. Pick the effect, slip the vocal track, you're done.
Price? About $700 and up on the "BAY"

Oh, you want your voice in harmony? Pick that too... any scale, any mode, or create your own scale, or play a scale via MIDI.

For fun, I just finished having Paul McCartney sing three part harmony with himself (using the Voice One on his original vocal) on the chorus of "Black Bird"... He actually did a pretty good job of singing with himself, but it was too good. I had to dial in some variations on the other two "Paul" tracks to make it more natural.
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Besides the harmony thing. What does this actually do?
 
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