double tracking effects not chorus

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For a live band how can i get my vocals to double track? i don't like how a chorus or pitch shifter sounds its not double tracking layered sounding

The pitch shifters just sounds like a chorus on my vocals

What would u guys do or hook up to try to get a really close double tracking live??
 
Delay modulator, or just straight delay, or are you looking for something beyond that?
 
First of all, I have no experience with live setups. But in theory, this might work.

Split the vocal signal into 2 signals, have one come out in the front, and the other slightly off to the right or left, with a very slight delay and maybe some EQ. And bring this one's volume down a little relative to the main (dry) vocal.

This works in recordings, not sure how it would work in a live setup.

Walters - Why haven't we heard any of your recordings? :(
 
Oh my gosh I just replied to a Walters post and didn't even know it, crap....
 
I think one walters is more than enough. The thought of doubling him makes me queazy.
 
I listen to alot of TUPAC he double tracks all his vocals but im trying to get that live

by splitting my vocals and doing what to make it have that double tracked layered sound u know

Marc Bolan from T-rex also i like his double tracked vocals

Delay modulator, or just straight delay, or are you looking for something beyond that?

Yes i am what would be beyond this?

what kind of delay modulator sound double track like TUPAC vocals or Marc Bolan?
 
how can i use a SLAP BACK delay to do a double tracked layered vocal??
 
Pretty sure Tupac was just singing along to a prerecorded track during any live performance he ever did. The rap crowd is way less scrutinizing and more forgiving than a rock crowd. Probably because of the Hennessy, crack, and blunts.

When's the last time you saw T.Rex live?
 
walters said:
how can i use a SLAP BACK delay to do a double tracked layered vocal??
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You can use whatever you like, walters, as long as you have your helmet on.
 
danny.guitar said:
I was thinking exactly the same thing. :confused:
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Sorry...I thought the post was more of a joke...guess it's not...or is it.

Uhh, anyhow, someone already nailed it.

You simply record the vocals twice.

In the studio.

Then when you are live you play back the doubled vocals. Along with the song everyone is pretending to play along to. That's how all the pros do it anyways. Just ask Ashley Simpson. :cool:
 
ikijapan said:
Sorry...I thought the post was more of a joke...guess it's not...or is it.
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Damn... and I was impressed that you had the savy after just 18 posts to understand perfectly... ;)
 
Just put....down the ...mic, and ...back ...away...slowly....
 
I missed that it was Walters also. In that case, the answer is.........
Busses - Use lots of busses. :D
 
If the question is how to double track, well just patch a cable from the direct out or insert of the vocal channel into another channel's line in. Then insert your effect(s) on the duplicate channel.


For the slap back stereo effect, a stereo delay effect has to be used inserting the left side into the primary vocal channel then the right side into the duplicate channel. Pan the two channels left and right. But to do this you will need a board that has both a direct out and an insert on the channels. And also the direct out must be pre insert.

Hope this helps
 
Do like a lot of vocalists did in the 70`s just ducktape 2 dynamic mics together on the mic stands.

Paul Rodgers and Peter Gabriel did this, I`m sure they would be proud having you follow theire footsteps. :rolleyes:
 
I don't think anything "real time" exists to do this, and I've thought a few times about this. To pull this off you need to replicate the constantly shifting deltas in time/pitch/timber/formants/and dynamics of two vocal performances. Sounds do-able, but I have to believe it's been, or is being worked on by some of the companies with the resources and expertise to do it, and so far it hasn't been pulled off. Must be a tough nut to crack.
 
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