Double time, "the forbidden beat"

[marshall.amps]

I am a newbie to playing drums. I really want to learn some faster punk beats. I have looked around on you tube and what not. But I was wondering if any one could point me in the right direction to learn some techniques for speed. I know from you tube vids that there are like exercises to speed up your wrist on the high hat. I don't know that I could go get lessons it is a little late in the summer for that. But Maybe I could take a couple lessons to learn just a few things. Unless you guys know some good on line stuff.

Thanks for any advice.

 

[truth_movement]

I am a newbie to playing drums. I really want to learn some faster punk beats. I have looked around on you tube and what not. But I was wondering if any one could point me in the right direction to learn some techniques for speed. I know from you tube vids that there are like exercises to speed up your wrist on the high hat. I don't know that I could go get lessons it is a little late in the summer for that. But Maybe I could take a couple lessons to learn just a few things. Unless you guys know some good on line stuff.

Thanks for any advice.

Honestly, speed doesn't make you a good drummer. If anything, it makes you more sloppy cause you're trying too hard to keep up with yourself. Slow down, take your time and practice the things that matter with experimenting around your kit using paradiddles, single, double, tripple stokes.

Punk beats are meerly just a fast 4/4 kick, snare, kick kick, snare. You can't be taught how to play fast unfortunately dude!

 

[Greg_L]

Speed is important with simple punk beats. Especially on the hat and ride. Being precise is too. Punk drumming isn't overly technical, but it's fast and has to be precise and it takes stamina. You'd be surprised how many "good" drummers can't make it the whole way through a simple punk song at 250 bpm.

Anyway, play to a click or someone's album. You need to build up stamina and perfect timing in your wrists and fingers. I suck in general, but I can play pretty fast and keep it up for a long time. (I learned with Ramones albums).

 

[BentRabbit]

CBS = Control Before Speed

Start with your metronome or practice song(s) at whatever speed you can play comfortably at and then start notching it up regularly when you think you're ready.

Do this in small increments, (160 to 165/170... 170 to 175/180... etc.) If/when you get tired, take a break... Drumming is as physical as it gets and you can hurt yourself...

Over time, you will build speed and stamina through repetition and muscle memory.

If you're looking for a 'technique' for speed, Google "Moeller"

You're not in any race to get up to 250+ bpm... Punk songs will still be there when you're ready...

 

[marshall.amps]

Honestly, speed doesn't make you a good drummer. If anything, it makes you more sloppy cause you're trying too hard to keep up with yourself. Slow down, take your time and practice the things that matter with experimenting around your kit using paradiddles, single, double, tripple stokes.

Punk beats are meerly just a fast 4/4 kick, snare, kick kick, snare. You can't be taught how to play fast unfortunately dude!

Okay yea man no crap I am just asking for some techniques or something to practice.

 

[dintymoore]

Everything on drums is based on the single stroke roll - right-left-right-left... that is the basis of all drumming.

Assuming you're right handed, practice that roll with your kick with your right hand. Play along with recordings, television... try to play it with songs to keep it musical and not a sporting event!

When you play your kick, hold the beater against the head when you hit it. So you actually start with the beater against the head each time. This will help you immeasurably with getting a solid feel. If you're feet aren't solid, you're hands don't have a chance.

Don't try to play fast (ya right!)... it will only come with time.

Put an old pair of sticks under the seat of your car so you can practice in bad traffic (be careful!!!).

When you hear a drummer and he's playing fast, it probably isn't fast to him, so try not to think fast; think deliberate.

The faster you play, the more you start leaving out, especially in the ride hand, and knowing when to start leaving out stuff is key to being able to play fast without getting your head in a tizzy. If you think that way you can play any tempo calmly.

A friend of mine who played with Buddy Rich said that at the fastest tempos they'd start counting only the first beat of the bar: one - one - one... now that's fast!

 

[marshall.amps]

Everything on drums is based on the single stroke roll - right-left-right-left... that is the basis of all drumming.

Assuming you're right handed, practice that roll with your kick with your right hand. Play along with recordings, television... try to play it with songs to keep it musical and not a sporting event!

When you play your kick, hold the beater against the head when you hit it. So you actually start with the beater against the head each time. This will help you immeasurably with getting a solid feel. If you're feet aren't solid, you're hands don't have a chance.

Don't try to play fast (ya right!)... it will only come with time.

Put an old pair of sticks under the seat of your car so you can practice in bad traffic (be careful!!!).

When you hear a drummer and he's playing fast, it probably isn't fast to him, so try not to think fast; think deliberate.

The faster you play, the more you start leaving out, especially in the ride hand, and knowing when to start leaving out stuff is key to being able to play fast without getting your head in a tizzy. If you think that way you can play any tempo calmly.

A friend of mine who played with Buddy Rich said that at the fastest tempos they'd start counting only the first beat of the bar: one - one - one... now that's fast!

thanks for the input!