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Hey guys, I'm new here. I've been kind of lookin around here, and am really new to this whole recording thing, but I'm trying to set up a home studio. I've got a laptop, a mic and am looking for software, but (yes this is a stupid question, so don't laugh) wat is a sound card and mixer, and why do u need them??? Wat else do you need to set up a home studio??? I am a soloist, but will add guitar and piano later.
I feel so stupid.
Amber
 
1st of all..Welcome to the bbs Amber.
2nd of all.. Please don't feel stupid. Stupid is best left to those that think they know it all. You have admitted you are new and just haven't learned things YET. That in itself proves you are not stupid at all. Please keep in mind that NO ONE here was born knowing this stuff, we all had to learn by asking and even the most experienced keeps asking and learning all the time.
So please don't be so hard on yourself. OK? (Ok)

A mixer is (usually) a piece hardware (A box) that you plug mics and cables from instruments like guitar or keyboards into so that you can "Blend" (Mix) them together at various volumes, tones and positions as you might hear them from left to right in speakers and/ or headphones.

Mixers have Channels. The channels are like the paths that you tell each sound or instrument to take in order to all meet up together as one. While the sound is heading down the path you can control how loud you want it be and/or if you decide it sounds too deep or too high pitched you can adjust that as well. The idea is that you can custom taylor (To an extent) all of the sounds or intruments along the path so that they compliment each other as one "Mixed" sound.

Mixers do other things to the signal and sound as well and the questions you'll have will come naturally as you need to understand deeper.

A soundcard is (For the most part) a piece of computer hardware and software that allows you to listen to and record sound on your PC.
(Someone here will give better explainations for both than I can.)

I'll let the next person here add to this.

Hang in there
Billy
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Welcome Amber. Dont be worried about asking stupid questions, I know I learn something new here everyday. And for the most part, the experts here are helpful and understanding. Good luck, and good recording.
 
Just thought I'd say well done Billy, I liked that mixer description.

Amber, the way in which most home recordist's (and studio's) record is through what is called multi-tracking.

You have your mixer as billy said. You have your sound card (this is what will capture your sound onto your laptop) then on your laptop you'd edit or taylor your sound to want you want.

Multi-tracking is the process of recording each sound on a different channel (or track) so that it can further manipulated after recording.

An ideal soundcard will have multiple inputs which can capture each of the sounds on seperate tracks on your laptop. Multi-tracking also allows you the ability to record one instrument at a time (which is how people like Ben Folds, Harry Connick Jr etc play every instrument on some of their recordings) so therefore you play one instrument while listening to the previously recording instrument and end up with a complete full song.

Hope that helps a little, good luck amber
Time for someone else to take over.
Scott
 
My gosh, thank you guys sooo much. That was really good description from everyone. I understood it!!! Lol. Well, thanks alot guys. Now I g2g buy me a mixer and a sound card. :)

Amber
 
Hey Amber,

Before investing your hard earned cash PLEASE stop by the computer forum of this site and try to give/get some info on exactally what your laptop is capable of in terms of it's processor and memory. This is of the utmost importance when setting out to do PC based recording.

IF it turns out your laptop isn't powerful enough don't despair...
There are options such as small multi track recorders which are a mixer AND a recording device in one unit that you might be able to get for about the same price as a sound card and a mixer.
Some of these units are VERY easy (very fun as well) to use and produce pretty decent results. (Not incredible like you'd hear on the radio... That kind of sound simply costs thousands of dollars to acheive.), But you can create and record your songs on one for sure.


:)
 
Yo Amber, welcome to the board! First of all, let me say that I'm presuming because you sign "Amber", that you are of the female persuasion. God knows this testosterone-based hobby needs more women, so pleeeeease stick around!
You have already gotten some very good advice here. Here's mine. First, don't buy a pile of the wrong stuff because you are in a rush to get going. Stick around here and wait until you can get 3 or 4 good engineers to admit you have a plan. There are a lot of peripherals, ranging from useful stuff to necessary stuff that you either don't know about yet, or haven't thought of. Power conditioners, mic stands, cables, pop filters, microphones, preamps, lots of stuff.
Let's start at the beginning. What do you intend to record, and where do you intend to record it? If you're recording just yourself and a guitar or keyboard at home, that's very different from recording a band practice across town. What kind of music will you be recording, violins, grunge? What do you intend to do with the recordings? Personal enjoyment, demos, commercial release?
What kind of budget do you have? It sounds like you have some, but you need to plan it out, right down to the chair you're sitting in, and the strings on your guitar. What kind of room do you have available? Recording will make you hear things in a room you never heard before, right down to the ticking of your watch. How high is the ceiling? Are there windows, carpet? Do people give you a hard time when you make noise? Listen-- can you hear an ambulence siren, or crickets, the refrigerator upstairs? All of that will affect your gear choices.
What are the capabilities of your laptop? Many laptops can't really cut it, and there may be, as suggested above, better ways to meet your needs, or not. Once you have answered my questions, the people here, including myself, will be able to help you much better.
Until then, start to think this way- The recording signal chain starts at the beginning, and goes to the end, in this order: The musician(s), the instrument(s), the room, the mic(s), the cable, the preamp, more cables, then the recorder/sound card/effects. If you buy a lot of expensive processing, but the room sucks, your recording will suck. Rooms can be modified, and good recording space can usually be created inexpensively, if you have- knowledge. You can get that here, if you don't blow all your money before you know what you need. First, answer my questions, and we'll go to work to help you.
Be advised, though, this can be bewildering, because you're going to find that there's more than one way to skin this cat, and there are experts and professional engineers here who completely disagree. There are also a few useless trolls you have to learn to ignore. You'll have to stick around for a while to find out who to believe. If you do, I promise it will be worth the wait.-Richie
 
just wanted to say, very good advice Richie!
Everyone here is here to help, we've all made purchases we wish we didn't make (well at least i have), we dont like seeing people make the same mistakes.
HR.com will help you with what you need,
after you estabslish what you have and what you want to achieve.
Scott
 
ChristopherM said:
What's going on with Studiocovers? Down for repair?
I've been unable to pull up the site for days? Anyone else?

I haven't been able to get it for about 2 weeks or more.

Porter
 
Amber, Like the posts before me take this a little at a time. Get a 4 track analog multitrack tape machine-Tascam ,Fostex. You may find some used one at some stores. You only need a mixer if you are recording more than one sound source at a time. So if it's just you ,piano,strings, and lets say, a french horn, record each instrument seperately on tracks 1,2, and 3. And your vocal on 4 and mix them all together at once into your pc on whatever mixing software you use. Through your soundcard. This is a good inexpensive way to learn overdubbing and mixing multiple sound sources. Or if it's in your budget, go digital and you can import and export wavs between your pc and your digital recorder. Good luck. Overdubbing is Fun! Pj
 
Lol. This post has gotten so many replies. Well, now I don't need to buy a mixer, at least for a while. Thanks pj. And everyone else. *Sigh* I'm so glad i became a memeber here!!!
 
Adkonz- Just tell us what you have, what you can spend, what you're trying to do, and where you're trying to do it, and we'll get a lot more helpful.. Remember I said people would disagree? I disagree with the idea of an analog (cassette) 4-tracker. The newer digital standalones require far less maintenance, produce better sound, offer more editing capabilities. Analog at the entry level is pretty much dead, although it does offer some very interesting possibilities at the really high end. 1" tape at 30" per second? Very cool, very expensive. Cassette? Currently blown away by most good digital standalones or digital audio workstations.-Richie
 
Hi Amber,

A member from Nebraska--me too. Welcome to the board.

All of these guys have good advice. I have learned quite a lot, and there's so much more, but I love learning about it.

I also have a laptop, that worked for me decently. I don't have a need for much though. There were issues at times, though I have no idea really what to attribute them to. I'm not using it much anymore, in favor of my desktop.

Hope all purchases go wonderfully for you, with the help of the experienced.
-Kirstin
 
Yo Kirstin:

Love your logo photo -- reminds me of an old mellow friend way back.

Green Hornet
 
Yeah i can feel it too!

We need more helpless females for the male recording 'knights' to be hero's too!
lol
J/kidding
 
Every once in a while we will get a new female in here that can venture into the Dragon Cave and really kick ass.
 
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