does the mixer always have mic preamp?

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a preamp is important for probably almost every mic you will buy. both dynamic and condenser.
yes that mixer has two preamps in it. preamps on a mixer are usually noted by the XLR connectors (those big, round, three pin female things), since that is the connection you will usually see for a microphone
 
If it's just for poops and giggles, those pre's should work fine for ya. But you'll probably end up catching the recording bug and need a neve in no time.
 
pdadda said:
If it's just for poops and giggles, those pre's should work fine for ya. But you'll probably end up catching the recording bug and need a neve in no time.


well is there anything better? i'm looking @ a 100 dollar budget, kindda cheap on my part but i'm out of money rite now :), i was looking for something with some effect included, but it doesn't look like there's any for cheap. suggestion are always welcome.

PS: i bought the PG58 as seen here
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/270287/

the cable is a phone mic cable or something of the sort

i would have to buy the XLR cable to use with these mixer right?
well which of these are good?
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/332500/
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/330372/
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/338001/
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/361707/
 
warlock110 said:
well is there anything better? i'm looking @ a 100 dollar budget, kindda cheap on my part but i'm out of money rite now :), i was looking for something with some effect included, but it doesn't look like there's any for cheap. suggestion are always welcome.

I have the same thing and the pre's are ok, but like said above, the are the bottom of the line of pre's-- good for goofing off with but will not give great color add to your sound. I have heard (but no direct experience with) that some of ht3e soundcraft mixers might be a step up from the Behringers.

Most of the equipment threads seem to say that you will benefit most from investing in good mics, then pres, and then it gets a good deal more complicated.
 
warlock110 said:
thanks daav for the fast replies :), i was actually editing my post when u post the replies... i got a few more question on the post above :)

also i was looking @ mic
would this be an upgrade from my PG58?
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=clearance/search/detail/base_pid/273156X/

I'll do my best, but I am just an egg compared to many on the board, hopefully you will get others chiming in as well.

The two mic are of different kinds (check out the stickied posts in the microphone forum, it will tell you everything. In the end of the first one someone posted a link to a page that condenses everyhting-- including some "standards" for choices in entry level and other prioce, very helpful!).

I've never used either, but i can toss out conjecture with the best of them:
The PG58 is a dynamic that appears to be a bit more affordable model of the SM58 (which i have one of), also by shure. The SM58 is a standard dynamic, probabaly best used for vocals, my acoustic guitar tracks recorded on it suck anyway. It might also hold up for micing amps, or some drum micing here and there. It is probably a good bit more sturdy than the MXL 990 and better suited to live applications.

The 990 is a large diaphram condensor, which will require phantom power (the behringer mixer has this, so you are set there) and will give a very different tone and quality. As a rule, the LDC are used from a bit further distance and pick up sound much more sensitively (like the fridge runnning downstairs). These tend to excell with instrument recording, and can give good color to vocals (as mentioned they are very sensitive so may let throguh some unpleasantness if the source has it as well). In a good room, LDCs can add quite a bit to your recording.

I'd be wrong to make any kind of reccomendation, i just don't have the experience, but if you read the mic threads i mentioned you will hear a great deal from some of the best.

Eventually having more than one mic for different situations is a goal to shoot for, and the rule is generally buy the best thing you can afford. You could probabaly find an SM57 or SM58 used for about the same price you mention above, which would probably be preferrable to the PG58, and for $30-40 more you could open your options on the condensor mics up to many of the ~$100 ones that people speak highly of as well.

As for cabling, you will need to get some XLR cables, one for each mic you might be using, and the same rule applies, you tend to get what you pay for. Monster cables are warrenteed for life I think, and some cheap ones might add noise to your signal or go bad quickly.

Hope this helps,
Daav.
 
I tend to avoid any mic that has an on/off switch (like the PG series).
 
MadAudio said:
I tend to avoid any mic that has an on/off switch (like the PG series).

Handy for a singer live (in the event of feedback), but no place in the studio.
 
My theory on mics with switches is that the maker knew that at some point the user would realize that it sounds better turned off.
 
resin8r said:
My theory on mics with switches is that the maker knew that at some point the user would realize that it sounds better turned off.
lol.......... :D
 
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