Does anybody record drums like this?

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I'm not a drummer, but I've got a few guys auditioning to come in my home studio and lay down some tracks with my drum setup. Just want some feedback on my recording approach.
First off, I'm recording into Sonar 3.1 and I have a Yamaha DT Express kit. The kik & tom sounds are acceptable, and believe it or not, so are the cymbals, so I'm running the L&R outs to my recorder. The snare and HH do not respond well to the nuances of real drumming, so I have a 8" metal Pearl snare and a set of 13" K (Zildjian) hats that I picked out after listening to many different sizes. They didn't "clop" as much as the bigger sizes when you pedalled them and I like the higher pitched sound.
I have the snare miced with a Beta 57 on top and the hat is miced with a Rode NT-5 about 3" above and halfway in from the edge. It's pointed out (away from the snare) at 45 deg.
I just set this up last night and it's a bitch to set recording levels when you're alone and have to go back and forth just to look at the waveforms and listen, repeat, repeat, etc.
Anyway, I'm also recording midi out of the brain so I can seperate the drums to different tracks do some sound replacement. I'm not sure yet how to do this, but in theory, it sounds like a good idea. This is where I need some help.
Anybody else record drums this way?
 
MadMax said:
I'm not a drummer, but I've got a few guys auditioning to come in my home studio and lay down some tracks with my drum setup. Just want some feedback on my recording approach.
First off, I'm recording into Sonar 3.1 and I have a Yamaha DT Express kit. The kik & tom sounds are acceptable, and believe it or not, so are the cymbals, so I'm running the L&R outs to my recorder. The snare and HH do not respond well to the nuances of real drumming, so I have a 8" metal Pearl snare and a set of 13" K (Zildjian) hats that I picked out after listening to many different sizes. They didn't "clop" as much as the bigger sizes when you pedalled them and I like the higher pitched sound.
I have the snare miced with a Beta 57 on top and the hat is miced with a Rode NT-5 about 3" above and halfway in from the edge. It's pointed out (away from the snare) at 45 deg.
I just set this up last night and it's a bitch to set recording levels when you're alone and have to go back and forth just to look at the waveforms and listen, repeat, repeat, etc.
Anyway, I'm also recording midi out of the brain so I can seperate the drums to different tracks do some sound replacement. I'm not sure yet how to do this, but in theory, it sounds like a good idea. This is where I need some help.
Anybody else record drums this way?



I have recorded midi before in logic with a older dtx 2.0 set. There is a funtion within logic that separates the bulk midi track into tracks by instrument. As for the cymbals you can get away with them but they arent all that. If they work for you than great. It is always hard to beat the sound of a zildjian K. A real snare drum is preferable as well. When I play the electronic drums I play with heavy sticks lbut I dont mash them. Seems to work better. I use something like a vic firth general which is like a small axe handle for finesse playing but it gets the job done on the pads.

Once you get the midi tracks separated out you can record them as audio to separate tracks and mix them like drum tracks without bleed.
 
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