Do I Have To Have A Mixer

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Hey, been reading some things on here, and need just a tad bit more help. I am getting a condensor mic this weekend, for more clarity on my vocal recordings with my lyrics. I am wondering do I need a mixer to record, or can i just plug it into the MIC IN port on my SOUNDBLASTER card. I am sure this question has been answered a hundred times, but I want to know before I go spending money for something I cant use.

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Wizzle,
you can't plug a condensor mic into a Soundblaster soundcard!

1)your mic will have a xlr connector on it and the soundcard has those 1/8" inputs.

2)a condensor mic needs phantom power and a good preamp
(of which,the soundblaster either does not have or they are just too poor quality to be of any good use)

do you need a mixer?..........not necesarily....you could always get a high priced multitrack soundcard that has mic preamps AND phantom power ........most of these high quality cards come with a software mixer so you won't need a hardware mixer......they're pricey though....I plan on getting an Aark Q10......for $850!
there's a microphone forum here so go to that and check it out...we also have a computer recording forum too.........good luck,hope this helps a little

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don't buy that mic just yet as pgm said. Lets start with how many tracks do you need to record at one time? What are you recording? Then we can talk about specific hardware from there.
 
Nope,I wouldn't buy the mic first either. There's no sense in having a condensor with a preamp of some sort.

Just stick around the recording forums and read a lot. It will all click sooner or later :)
 
UnkleSlam, you of course meant to say "There's no sense in having a condensor without a preamp of some sort."

A condensor mic requires phantom power, but then most preamps do supply phantom power.
 
thanks

thanks for the help, i am probably not going to buy the condensor, see what I am doing now is buying a mic for hip hop recording and no instruments, just vocals. I posted over in the mic section and thanks for the info guys. I am sort of understanding this a lil bit more.
 
...forget MIC IN on your Sound Blaster card. Just totaly forget it. Pretend like there's no MIC in. Trust me.... Use only LINE IN, so MIC--> Preamp (mixer) --> LINE IN. ;)
 
I agree with your first part James....but I wouldn't even use the soundblaster card at all though......too poor quality for me ......trust me I used them for years !
 
pgm said:
I agree with your first part James....but I wouldn't even use the soundblaster card at all though......too poor quality for me ......trust me I used them for years !

LOL, yeah, sure I trust you. It's for newbie anyway. Good for someone who just starts home recording, while still love to play PC games... :D :D :D
 
WHATS THE DIFFERENCE

Ok you just threw me all off with this mic in and line in, whats the difference. Is there a severe difference and does it really make the music sound better even on my horrible soundcard?
 
Yes there is a big difference between them. Mic in is expecting a much different signal level than the line in is. The line in will ussually be wanting a -10db input (or +4 on the pro cards) and the mic in is wanting a much lower level (could be as low as -40db **help me out here guys if that aint right**) So a mic won't give the level that the line in is needing, ever! And don't plug a line level device to your mic input unless you want to smell silicon burning! LOL!
 
"mic in and line in, whats the difference. Is there a severe difference and does it really make the music sound better even on my horrible soundcard?" -

Yes, ESPECIALLY on your horrible soundcard. Almost without exception, any soundcard that does its conversion from analog to digital signal INSIDE the computer, will have very large amounts of noise picked up from the electrically noisy environment inside the computer. There are a couple of high end cards that this is LESS true of, but they cost as much as an external sound card.

When you input a mic signal, which actually can be as low as -60 dB in level, into the preamp? of a soundblaster, you're giving all that electrical noise a 50 dB (about 400 x) headstart on destroying your signal-to-noise ratio. You will hear a large difference in sound quality, even with a cheap external preamp, by plugging your mic into the external preamp and taking the line level output into the line input on your soundblaster. Now, not only are you bypassing the cheaply built preamp in the soundblaster, but you're coming into the computer with a 400X stronger signal and amplifying it that much less. This keeps the noise from the computer from being anywhere near as prevalent in the sound.

Whether you use a mixer or just a preamp, as stated by others above do NOT use the mic in on your soundcard unless you just like garbage... Steve
 
ok, i have a mic right now that has a 1/8 or whatever size plug on it that is plugged right into my soundcard thru the mic in port, just for now untill i get my new mic, should i plug it into the line in, or just leave it where it is. and once again, THANKS FOR THE HELP GUYS
 
if you are going straight from the mic to the soundcard, you HAVE to go into the mic input or you wont get a signal.....
 
WIZZLE said:
ok, i have a mic right now that has a 1/8 or whatever size plug on it that is plugged right into my soundcard thru the mic in port, just for now untill i get my new mic, should i plug it into the line in, or just leave it where it is. and once again, THANKS FOR THE HELP GUYS

just leave it where it is, with a cheap ass mic like that it doesn't matter, i did it for years until i got a new mic, and thats only because im getting more serious with my music.
 
pgm said:
....but I wouldn't even use the soundblaster card at all ....
I agree with pgm, on the fact that the SB soundcards are WACK. But they are great if you intend on using soundfonts. ;)
 
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