Discouraged From Recording

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Not sure how much experience you have with instruments ect...my advice is to learn the intrument first then record...I see a lot of people recording before they should be...Just take your time and learn first then record.

Now if your an experinced player I would recommkend collaboration with other people to help progress as a musician...its cool to do it all on your own and everything however a song sounds better when more hands are involved.
 
Every time I memorize a new scale I come up with new music. At least on the piano... I would memorize a new scale and it would get me to come up with new melodies.

Do you have a looper? Those are great for coming up with ideas - you just record a loop of a chord progression and then you can play over it and come up with melodies and leads and stuff.

Try to use some chord progressions that you don't use very often - also limiting yourself to a small amount of notes within a scale can be a great way to come up with stuff - limit yourself to like 6 notes or something and then just try playing it every variation possible until you hear something you like...
 
like the post above i was going to suggest a looper ...stuff starts to happen with two instruments in an informal setup like jam man or something like that.
 
There have been many times when I was sitting with a guitar, waiting for my Muse, and the wench done stood me up. I think the only thing to do is endeavor to persevere.

That said, I have also found certain things that sometimes help to jolt me out of my rut (or downward spiral) and put me on a new (sometimes more fruitful) track.

Maybe try putting on an album you like and playing along with it, front to back, every track, repeatedly, until your contribution (whether you're doing backing rhythms, screaming leads or whatever) starts to sound like you're actually part of the band, and adding something to the songs. I don't mean try to duplicate or copy what the other guys are doing; I mean just riff along and do what YOU feel, play your own part, and add it to what they're doing. On occasion, I've done this for up to three or four weeks with a single album, every spare minute I could scratch out of each day. What I found over time was that it made me a much, much better guitar player, not only technically more proficient, but much more tuned in to what all the other parts were doing and how I could find something to weave into the mix. And in turn that gave me both increased confidence and a deeper approach to the creative process of making music.

Another trick I've found useful on many occasions: think of some song you're very familiar with, at least as a listener, even if you haven't ever played it. Then sit down all alone in a quiet room (don't put the song on the stereo) and do a quick run through of the chord structure of that song. And then, noodle around and take an entirely different approach to that song, some style you've never heard anyone do it in before. For example, maybe take the Beatles' "Let It Be" and work it to a reggae beat, or slow it down and turn it into a more delta-blues number, or maybe change the time signature and try it in waltz time, or whatever. Just play around with different approaches to familiar songs, things that are completely off-the-wall. You'll spend a lot of time screwing around, and not hearing anything cool. But every now and then, you'll stumble onto something that clicks, even if just a little bit, and it can spark ideas and approaches you hadn't thought of before. Then you can let that guide you into a new direction for your own songwriting. An awful lot of great songs are similar in chord structure to other great songs, but done with different rhythms, different tempos, different styles, sufficiently different emphasis, that they become something different in their own right. Take the chord progression of a song you like and reverse it, or reverse parts of it, or stay on one chord longer and another chord less time, or alter a major into a minor. Just noodling around with stuff like that, not really trying to force it, but just plunking around and listening for something that catches your ear, can be a great way to spend an evening. The great majority of the time you spend doing that won't lead immediately to a new song, but the time is never "wasted" because you're getting in exercise with your hands on the strings, you're getting more fluent with the instrument's voice, you're (even if only subconsciously) developing your own personal style, and you're (even if only subconsciously) storing away in your mind little pieces of riffs, progressions and ideas that might very well lead -- eventually -- to a cool song.

The main thing is, don't give up, and don't lose patience. If you're getting too frustrated, take a break for a day or two, but get back to it, and keep plunking away. Eventually, the Muse will arrive, and when she does, she'll make you forget all about the nights she stood you up.
 
I would start with some drum grooves and just jam over those.

This is the method I use 90% of the time and it's pretty unusual for me to not come up with something useable, workable into a full song, although it's rare that I actually get the song finished! What keeps me motivated, though, is the music I hear in my head that could be, should be that I'm not hearing anywhere else. Don't give up, dude - whenever you get to where you want to be will make you forget your present creative block and it will all be worth it.
 
Woops. I've been neglecting this thread for a while. I thought it died. :D

Thanks for all the posts. I'm on the verge of getting out of this writers block. I'm writing some parts of songs, but verses/bridges/choruses won't come to me. I'll just keep going and see what happens.
 
What i like to do to keep things fresh is mix up the songwriting process. Instead of trying to come up with a guitar part first, start the song off a drum beat that you have never used before. Or a random bass line or keyboard part. Then try to write a chorus or verse out of that. Mix up the order that you do things, and the results will be something completely different than you have ever made before.
 
Sigh. Lately I've had a nasty case of writers block and discouragement. I feel like no matter how hard I try, I can't get the sounds I want. The thought of this makes me want to throw my guitars out the window and start over. Is there any cure to getting over this feeling? I've tried writing stuff but I can't find my sound yet. I play a lot of different genres and I'm not sure what suits me best for original stuff. I sound a bit whiny, but I need some advice. Anyone want to collab? :D

I understand the whole "garbage in, garbage out" thing. I haven't found the right garbage yet. :laughings:

Just take a week/couple of weeks off from recording. I do it about every 3 months or so! It helps keep me fresh, because when I come back, I have a lot of pent-up creativity inside that just kinda comes rushing out.
 
Just start writing everyday with the intention of "writing for the garbage can." Don't try to be good, just write. You do that everyday and you'll find your niche over time.
 
Sigh. Lately I've had a nasty case of writers block and discouragement. I feel like no matter how hard I try, I can't get the sounds I want. The thought of this makes me want to throw my guitars out the window and start over. Is there any cure to getting over this feeling? I've tried writing stuff but I can't find my sound yet. I play a lot of different genres and I'm not sure what suits me best for original stuff. I sound a bit whiny, but I need some advice. Anyone want to collab? :D

I understand the whole "garbage in, garbage out" thing. I haven't found the right garbage yet. :laughings:
how long ya' been playing? The suggestions will differ depending on if you're young still looking to 'find' your sound or if you're 50 and have lost your muse.
 
Anything you can do to get inspired, do it... You don't "write" music, you let it come through you.

There's no bad musicians, only lazy musicians.

Having some ambition helps...After all, ambition is what pushes one to work harder. It takes a LOT of work to make music...

I find a looper VERY helpful when it comes to "sketch" out ideas.

Hope u find your way soon!
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Anything you can do to get inspired, do it... You don't "write" music, you let it come through you.
I've never gone along with that. People do write music. The fact that there is a kind of mystical element to the process that we can't always explain shouldn't take away from the fact that it takes a human being to collate, organize and make the decisions. The musical decisions. When I hear people say 'the music just comes through you', I smile and think that 'music' as it's own entity can be as predictable and unadventurous as the rest of us !
 
I am not a great song writer, player, or singer and I'm also a perfectionist, which is a combination certain to cause massive frustration. And it did for a long time. Then I thought, why am I making what is supposed to be an enjoyable hobby into such a miserable experience? What is my goal here? I finally decided that my goal is to try to have fun while trying to create some music that someone might possibly want to listen to. But I also decided to acknowlege my limitations and just go with the flow. There's no deadline so I can goof around all I want until something decent happens to come out of it. That approach has taken all the pressure off with the result that I am more inspired to write. And virtually all of my writing just comes from everyday life experiences. The simplest phrase or event can turn into lyrics fairly quickly. Just have fun!
 
I've never gone along with that. People do write music. The fact that there is a kind of mystical element to the process that we can't always explain shouldn't take away from the fact that it takes a human being to collate, organize and make the decisions. The musical decisions. When I hear people say 'the music just comes through you', I smile and think that 'music' as it's own entity can be as predictable and unadventurous as the rest of us !


well ..... it's a different process for different people.
Yes, absolutely some people 'write' music as a process similar to an author writing a book.
But others do seem to have the music pop in fully formed.
Different strokes and all that
 
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