true-eurt
Maneater
Okay, I think I like 4 best.....but maybe just maybe.... 
Nick The Man
New member
very cool dog
killer tone
pretty bad ass
i wanna walk on the scene of the movie .. but its gotta start with some shattering glass
killer tone
pretty bad ass
i wanna walk on the scene of the movie .. but its gotta start with some shattering glass
Dogman
Unkle Ticklefingers
Thanks, guys. Did it sound a bit too Low end heavy? I burned it to cd, and it sounded pretty low heavy on my stereo, but sounds fine elsewhere. Maybe the stereo is acting up....Nick The Man said:
true-eurt
Maneater
Not to me on what I am listening with. It sounds great!Dogman said:Thanks, guys. Did it sound a bit too Low end heavy? I burned it to cd, and it sounded pretty low heavy on my stereo, but sounds fine elsewhere. Maybe the stereo is acting up....
Gorty
New member
Dogman said:
Hey Dogman,
I have had a couple of listens to this now over the last couple of days, I love it. I have one thought that I was not going to mention but if you want to here it, it is this......
When you enter the second riff it seems to me that the first chord in the key change is not enough steps (as in tones and semi tones) away from the original key that the main riff is in!
However the more I listen to it, it sounds fine!
I just have something niggling me on that key of the second riff!
Don't let my comments detract from the killer tone you have on those guitars because I love it, and a very catchy riff to boot!
What key is the first riff in and what chord are you playing to begin the second riff or bridge as one may call it?
I take it you have a drop tuning on the guitars..........D maybe or even down to B possibly?
I love it Ed..........Good Work!
Kev
Dogman
Unkle Ticklefingers
Thanks, Gorty. That is one of the things I am struggling with. The verse, to chorus transition, and actually the way the chorus portiion is played right now. It is in low B, so teh open chord that is the last part of the chorus, is B, and transitions into C#. I need to rethink the transitions, but am sort of stuck. Any ideas?Gorty said:Hey Dogman,
I have had a couple of listens to this now over the last couple of days, I love it. I have one thought that I was not going to mention but if you want to here it, it is this......
When you enter the second riff it seems to me that the first chord in the key change is not enough steps (as in tones and semi tones) away from the original key that the main riff is in!
However the more I listen to it, it sounds fine!
I just have something niggling me on that key of the second riff!
Don't let my comments detract from the killer tone you have on those guitars because I love it, and a very catchy riff to boot!
What key is the first riff in and what chord are you playing to begin the second riff or bridge as one may call it?
I take it you have a drop tuning on the guitars..........D maybe or even down to B possibly?
I love it Ed..........Good Work!
Kev
Ed
Gorty
New member
Dogman said:
I think going from the chorus to the main riff is fine, it's the main riff into the chorus that is doing something to me: The first chord in the chorus is that B?
Kev
P.S.. I hope you don't think I'm trying to meddle, this is purely my take on things and aimed to be constructive!
Dogman
Unkle Ticklefingers
Dude, meddle all you want. That's what this is here for. I need some ideas, and this only helps. The verse starts in C#, and the chorus actually starts with a C, so maybe that is a problem. It progresses from C, to D, then to B. Maybe not enough variance....Gorty said:
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bigbubba
New member
What I find interesting is to just pull chords out of random places. Like just looking at a words and seeing what it starts with. Or just looking at the chords chart real quick. And just go with that. Now, if the variance is not enough, I'll, in my solo, hit the 7th note on the chord or just hit any other random note that will create the hanging/impending_resolution feeling and after that I'll worry about resolving or "going home". If you've heard my pieces, it's just random flurries of ideas and chords and a trickles of notes in a solo. But I hope you get the point.Dogman said:Dude, meddle all you want. That's what this is here for. I need some ideas, and this only helps. The verse starts in C#, and the chorus actually starts with a C, so maybe that is a problem. It progresses from C, to D, then to B. Maybe not enough variance....
Gorty
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Dogman said:Dude, meddle all you want. That's what this is here for. I need some ideas, and this only helps. The verse starts in C#, and the chorus actually starts with a C, so maybe that is a problem. It progresses from C, to D, then to B. Maybe not enough variance....
Hey Dogman, Im listening to this tune at work and the more I listen to it the more I feel like a dick for bringing the transition from C# to C. However it does confirm the variance of one semi-tone thingy that I had playing with my freaked out mind.
I will have a muck around at home with the guitar if I get the chance, to see if I can come up with any ideas.
It really is starting to grow on me now though Dogman! It's like when you get a new CD and the first listen doesn't grab you and then the more you listen you start appreciating it more and more!
Kev
Dogman
Unkle Ticklefingers
Thanks again, guys. Bubba, I think I know what you mean, just kind of winging stuff, and maybe with some more notes to fill, it could sound better, or maybe, I just need to think about trying a slight variation of what I have. Thanks, dude.
Gorty, why feel like a Dick for mentioning something?(unless you have a woody...
) With just a guitar, the chord transitions sound fine, but put a bass in, and it does seem a bit muddled. I have played it a few times trying to put in arpeggios, but they don't really ring, as the guitar is pretty dirty. And the "chorus" section might be too short at only 3 chords, played twice. Might need to rethink the whole progression there, so any ideas would be appreciated.
Again, thanks for the input.
Ed
Gorty, why feel like a Dick for mentioning something?(unless you have a woody...
) With just a guitar, the chord transitions sound fine, but put a bass in, and it does seem a bit muddled. I have played it a few times trying to put in arpeggios, but they don't really ring, as the guitar is pretty dirty. And the "chorus" section might be too short at only 3 chords, played twice. Might need to rethink the whole progression there, so any ideas would be appreciated. Again, thanks for the input.
Ed
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bigbubba
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Dogman said:Thanks again, guys. Bubba, I think I know what you mean, just kind of winging stuff, and maybe with some more notes to fill, it could sound better, or maybe, I just need to think about trying a slight variation of what I have. Thanks, dude.
Gorty, why feel like a Dick for mentioning something?(unless you have a woody...
Again, thanks for the input.
Ed
Might also be a very neat place to experiment with the bass. For example, you could hit any other note from the chord on the bass instead of playing the bass note. You could put in a little bass solo in there. Or on in the transition make either the first or the second chord a sus4 or something.
I'm just throwing out ideas. In the words of Joey Tribbiani, there's a lot of theories that didn't pan out: geometry, ....
Incanus
Nerd-man
Interesting tuning there Ed.
I would have guessed that the tuning would be the same relative tuning from the standard E. Thus (starting from the bass string) : B, E, A, D, F#, B. That way a traditional E shape would be a B major chord. But you're probably just using bar chords on the lowest 3-4 strings, so it wouldn't matter too much. Also, the nut issue would probably not be as significant on a guit as the difference in string sizes would be a little less than on a bass. Am I over-thinking this? I'm fascinated by non-standard tunings and such things. Probably one reason why I got into Soundgarden so much. They even did one song with all 6 strings tuned to E !!! (3 different octaves). Crazy.
Anyway, keep up the great work, Man from Dog.
I would have guessed that the tuning would be the same relative tuning from the standard E. Thus (starting from the bass string) : B, E, A, D, F#, B. That way a traditional E shape would be a B major chord. But you're probably just using bar chords on the lowest 3-4 strings, so it wouldn't matter too much. Also, the nut issue would probably not be as significant on a guit as the difference in string sizes would be a little less than on a bass. Am I over-thinking this? I'm fascinated by non-standard tunings and such things. Probably one reason why I got into Soundgarden so much. They even did one song with all 6 strings tuned to E !!! (3 different octaves). Crazy.
Anyway, keep up the great work, Man from Dog.
Dogman
Unkle Ticklefingers
The way I strung mine, was for what I believe a 7 string is tuned to. I think a real 7 string is just like a 6, with the added B, and never thought about tuning it to play just like a 6, with the F#, and not a G.....Probably would depend on how you wanted to play it. I use mine strictly for bar chords, and very seldom play lead, so I had never really thought of it not playing the way my 6 string in standard tuneing plays. You could probably do it either way, just depending on what's more comfortable. And I did find that just tuning my bass down the required steps to get it to low B, the strings were too loose, and it wouldn't hold tuning. Luckily my wife stepped in and purchased a the new 5 string for me....Incanus said:
And Bubba, I've been playing around with the bass, trying some different filler notes, and that seems to help. Keeps the low end from getting quite so muddy. I am going to work on that a bit more this weekend. Thanks.
Ed
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gbav
Active member
I liked the 4th version alot with the changes in and all that. I saw you say you thought it was bass heavy, from here it sounds ok in that area a little bit of thumpin for the palm mutes in the first riff but didn't come off overly bassy to me at least. Looking forward to hearing with vox. Still dig those guitar tones man.
Take care
gary
Take care
gary
Dogman
Unkle Ticklefingers
Thanks, man. I've been playing with some filler notes on teh bass, and hopefully have found something that will sound a bit better. I will probably do some scratch vocals to this, but True has expressed an interest in having a go, so when she gets set up, we'll see what happens.......gbav said:
Thanks, Gary.
Ed
Gorty
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Hey Dogman,
Just a thought, If you do feel the need to dabble with the transition between the verse and chorus you could transpose the verse to D, the riff would be played one semi-tone higher. This would then create a whole step from the D to the C when you enter the chorus riff!
With Bass on this tune seeing that the guitar is low and heavy, you could try playing the bass notes that you choose in the higher register, say an octave higher than the guitar, you get a nice timbre, the bass alone may sound too high in the register but coupled with the low guitar would sound sweet!
Just my 2c worth!
Kev
Just a thought, If you do feel the need to dabble with the transition between the verse and chorus you could transpose the verse to D, the riff would be played one semi-tone higher. This would then create a whole step from the D to the C when you enter the chorus riff!
With Bass on this tune seeing that the guitar is low and heavy, you could try playing the bass notes that you choose in the higher register, say an octave higher than the guitar, you get a nice timbre, the bass alone may sound too high in the register but coupled with the low guitar would sound sweet!
Just my 2c worth!
Kev
Dogman
Unkle Ticklefingers
Thanks, dude. I'll have to work on it this weekend. After this weekend, I will be gone for a week, so I hope to accomplish something, if I can....Gorty said:Hey Dogman,
Just a thought, If you do feel the need to dabble with the transition between the verse and chorus you could transpose the verse to D, the riff would be played one semi-tone higher. This would then create a whole step from the D to the C when you enter the chorus riff!
With Bass on this tune seeing that the guitar is low and heavy, you could try playing the bass notes that you choose in the higher register, say an octave higher than the guitar, you get a nice timbre, the bass alone may sound too high in the register but coupled with the low guitar would sound sweet!
Just my 2c worth!
Kev
Gorty
New member
Dogman said:
Once again Dogman,
Nice tune, Listening once again, gets me going!
Good luck and I look forward to hearing more!
ido1957
9K Gold Member
Timothy Lawler said:
Already some good comments here - I think Tim's was right on so I'm quoting him. You've got something good going here - just keep adding to it and it will grow into something really great. Looking forward to listening to this as it progresses.....