LeeRosario
New member
I just put up a mix called "Digital Killed Retro".
Anywho, have a listen, input always welcome
Digital Killed Retro
Lee
Anywho, have a listen, input always welcome
Digital Killed Retro
Lee
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myhatbroke
Cocktacular Member
Wow its....different? How is it metal though? I like it but its not metal just because you have a double kick hahaha Good mix and nice Vocals 
LeeRosario
New member
myhatbroke said:Wow its....different? How is it metal though? I like it but its not metal just because you have a double kick hahaha Good mix and nice Vocals
Hence the question mark. I couldn't classify it. Thanx for the kind words.
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NYMorningstar
Recording Modus Operandi
The tracking and studio work is great stuff. The only thing I'd change is I'd back off on the kick some because it sounds overused and detached to me.
The music itself is out there and I'd put it in the category of EDGE music because it sits there on the edge because it is different. It's a hard sell because it is different too but that's the cutting edge for you. The more I listen to it the more I like it
I'm really liking the Last Order.
The music itself is out there and I'd put it in the category of EDGE music because it sits there on the edge because it is different. It's a hard sell because it is different too but that's the cutting edge for you. The more I listen to it the more I like it
I'm really liking the Last Order.
LeeRosario
New member
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Solid observation, man.
Very valid points and something that really lets me hear the song with detached ears. I guess it feels like I'm trying to develope something with this "style", but perhaps it would take a while to really get something from it. Almost the same with the newer songs I'm starting to post up. It feels like I'm starting to take more risks for the sake of finding something "new". Lately, I've been sitting down writing pieces and then bringing it to ABB.
I'm just glad the collaboration is fun for me and the guys. The feeling's mutual so I'm really getting lucky with this project in terms of having some freedoms as an engineer/producer. In the experience, they've been more a studio band than anything.
I guess kind of like George Martin on the whole St Pepper theme when he says, "these things where really designed to be studio works rather than for live performance".
Good advice on the kick. Surprisingly, it was my first time really working with a metal drummer (different than the other songs), so I tried the "just invent something to go on" thing with him. I guess with the rhythm section I was trying to go for a military "rapid fire" thing in theme to the song. The way the bass and drums interact almost feels like something avenge sevefold meets old mudvayne (at least that was the intent). But it might of been overused, I'll admit. It was a really difficult song to follow for that fact (sorta abstract timing in the verses and song structure), but I liked that for some reason. I found that trait very endearing.
It's funny, cause I was presented two sides of the coin. On one side, there wasn't enough for the double petal fanatics and there was too much for the other. It's always a tough thing to address. Lately I learn something new as a rock producer, when I'm starting to ask myself, "how is this song going to reach the listener?"
From an engineering stand point, the drum quantizing was a little more prominent in this song. Again, really good observation.
Thanks for the last order comment
By the way, thanks for the engineering notes. Lately I've been obsessed with smoothing out my technique. Things like going easy on EQ, being really minimal with all things. Basically, working out the "aura" to a mix. I think that's the challenge, because you can't really measure that or learn it from a book. It's instinctual and I'm seeing now how it takes a lifetime to develope.
So I guess I'm really fine tuning the way I'm trying to work. For example, you can actually tell between "Digital Killed Retro" and "The Last Order". The Last Order was done different, at a different time, with different emotions. In my opinion, it's probably a little harsher than DKR. That's where the practice of referencing mixes proves more important everyday.
I think I'm really putting the emphasis on that after I had a chat with a guy who assisted Andy Wallance in the 80s. That was maybe like 2 or 3 weeks ago. It's cool because I found out a little about his work habits. Apparently he's incredibly presise and detailed. I've always like studying andy's work, so that was a really special experience for me.
Wow, I really let loose on that reply
NYMorningstar said:The tracking and studio work is great stuff. The only thing I'd change is I'd back off on the kick some because it sounds overused and detached to me.
The music itself is out there and I'd put it in the category of EDGE music because it sits there on the edge because it is different. It's a hard sell because it is different too but that's the cutting edge for you. The more I listen to it the more I like it
I'm really liking the Last Order.
Solid observation, man.
Very valid points and something that really lets me hear the song with detached ears. I guess it feels like I'm trying to develope something with this "style", but perhaps it would take a while to really get something from it. Almost the same with the newer songs I'm starting to post up. It feels like I'm starting to take more risks for the sake of finding something "new". Lately, I've been sitting down writing pieces and then bringing it to ABB.
I'm just glad the collaboration is fun for me and the guys. The feeling's mutual so I'm really getting lucky with this project in terms of having some freedoms as an engineer/producer. In the experience, they've been more a studio band than anything.
I guess kind of like George Martin on the whole St Pepper theme when he says, "these things where really designed to be studio works rather than for live performance".
Good advice on the kick. Surprisingly, it was my first time really working with a metal drummer (different than the other songs), so I tried the "just invent something to go on" thing with him. I guess with the rhythm section I was trying to go for a military "rapid fire" thing in theme to the song. The way the bass and drums interact almost feels like something avenge sevefold meets old mudvayne (at least that was the intent). But it might of been overused, I'll admit. It was a really difficult song to follow for that fact (sorta abstract timing in the verses and song structure), but I liked that for some reason. I found that trait very endearing.
It's funny, cause I was presented two sides of the coin. On one side, there wasn't enough for the double petal fanatics and there was too much for the other. It's always a tough thing to address. Lately I learn something new as a rock producer, when I'm starting to ask myself, "how is this song going to reach the listener?"
From an engineering stand point, the drum quantizing was a little more prominent in this song. Again, really good observation.
Thanks for the last order comment
By the way, thanks for the engineering notes. Lately I've been obsessed with smoothing out my technique. Things like going easy on EQ, being really minimal with all things. Basically, working out the "aura" to a mix. I think that's the challenge, because you can't really measure that or learn it from a book. It's instinctual and I'm seeing now how it takes a lifetime to develope.
So I guess I'm really fine tuning the way I'm trying to work. For example, you can actually tell between "Digital Killed Retro" and "The Last Order". The Last Order was done different, at a different time, with different emotions. In my opinion, it's probably a little harsher than DKR. That's where the practice of referencing mixes proves more important everyday.
I think I'm really putting the emphasis on that after I had a chat with a guy who assisted Andy Wallance in the 80s. That was maybe like 2 or 3 weeks ago. It's cool because I found out a little about his work habits. Apparently he's incredibly presise and detailed. I've always like studying andy's work, so that was a really special experience for me.
Wow, I really let loose on that reply
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queepy
aka Variaxman
I dig it...it defies categorization!! The Kinda sparse guitar lines remind me of new order , while the double kick fits the metal cliche.Vocals are real cool.This never lets the listener get comfortable with all the twist and turns...Great job!!
LeeRosario
New member
variaxman said:
Thanks alot man!By the way, I'm a huge fanatic if the stuff you're creating man.
The tunacock song, very raw, which I think is phenominal. I envy the engineering on that. I'm too polished to really get that underground sound!