Digi 001

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I downloaded the free Pro Tools this past weekend to give it a try. I tried this six months ago and Pro Tools completely hosed my [short lived] Windows ME install. So I got it to work this time, and I was wondering - has anyone who uses Vegas ever felt compelled to switch to Pro Tools after having used it? I sure don't. Pro Tools just seems like a hack of Mac program, which I suppose to a certain extent, is true. No right click functionality pains me. Performance was abysmal - I could only get three tracks with no effects before popping ocurred. By comparison I can get more than 16 with Vegas, and that's with a couple effects. To top it off, no Windows 2000 support means my second cpu is sitting there doing nothing.

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Guess I shoulda mentioned that I was looking at the Digi001, but the software is turning me off.
 
Elevate,

PTfree, for the PC, is basically a marketing disaster for Digidesign. It is in NO way indicative of the performance of the 001 and Le, in my opinion. PTFree on the Mac seems to work much better. Makes sense.

I think, interface-wise..you either like it, or not. You know?

Just my opinions,
CMD
 
Marketing disaster, eh? Seems like they should pull that off their site then, as my opinion of Pro Tools has gone straight down. As to the interface, it just seems....um...dated. I may be a minority in this sentiment, but I think these audio software developers need to take a cue from Sonic Foundry and actually utilize the functionality that's built into Windows. Why build your own button, when there's one already waiting for you to use.
 
My ONLY guess on the interface...it IS originally a MAC app...hence the interface. Who knows, with XP and OS X version currently in development, maybe they will change it. Personally, I am ok with it as it is so long as it works. I find myself struggling more with other interfaces actually
 
Digi001 or Delta1010 with Logic

I'm also carefully considering whether to get the Digi001. It sounds like Pro Tools LE is great software. But I'm hesitant to purchase mainly because of all the criticism the digital converters and preamps get.....is it really that noticable??

I'm also thinking about the Delta 1010 and maybe Logic or Cubase VST....and use the pre's on my Alesis 32 mixer....

How would that Setup compare to the Digi001???
Which do you recommend???
 
I don't own the DIGI yet but soon. From what I can gather the converters sound better than what was found on the ADATs, and thousands of Grammy albums were recorded on those. Are they the best on the market, no, but professional, sure.

Even the full blown system,has options of outboard converters. Look at it this way, an entire system that cost 1000 bucks can not have converters that cost 800 bucks.

Same thing with the pre's.

I own nice pre's so I could care less about how the ones included sound. (right on GeekGurl!)

YOur as much buying the Pro Tools for the software and compatibility of other pro studio's as your are hardware and such.

Yea, some of the MOTU can convert from thier software to pro tools, but it is not pro tools.
 
right on Joe! I hope you find the Digi to your liking.. I sure do!

Let me know if I can help at all!

Good luck,
C
 
the nice thing about MOTU

Though you will need to get Digital Performer, the nice thing is that the DP program will allow you to work with both midi and audio on a very deep level, it comes with some nice plug-ins, unlimited tracks, exapandability, and there are MOTU pieces now that do higher sampling rates. Also Digital Performer III has been very highly rated and regarded. I would check out these too. When I decided to go DAW, the salesman was trying to sell me the Digi 001. After some research and talking to some other musicians, I got turned onto the MOTU stuff at which point the salesman admitted that he used MOTU and not the Digi 001. I don't know the relative merits betwen the 001/protools and my MOTU 2408 mkII/digital Performer. In other words, I cannot do an item for item, feature for feature comparison, but, its owrth looking into. And, now, you can use any VST instrument even if it does not come in MAS by using a program that cost about 40-50 bucks called the VST Wrapper. And lastly, I think Digital Performer is astounding. It is truly a limitless program or, at least, you would be very hard pressed to exhaust all the possibilities on such an extensive program.

Good Luck whatever you do.
 
Jack Hammer,

I bought a copy DP in possibility of getting a MOTU828.

Maybe because I am not a MIDI guy, it doesn't make sense to me.


I am going to keep trying with it though.
 
jfogarty,

meant to ask this but forgot- what are the "Alesis AI-3 and the digimax, and the digimax light"? tryed searching for those, but couldn't find anything.
 
thanks a lot, elevate.
i hadn't tried a search engine. i tried looking directly into online stores like 8thstreet, zzounds.
stupid...
 
the software interface

One advice that I believe is very important is to choose the software interface that suits you.
I read in other threads that Digi's interface was considered "dated". I think that the interface is the best thing that Digi offers. It's so easy to use and so similar to the operating system itself that is a charm to use.
DP used to have a not-so-standard interface, even the windows on it where different that the OS's. I didn't see version 3, I'm talking about earlier ones.

You see, I once read that the best system is the one that doesn't interfere with the creative process. Maybe you're into "modern interfaces", with skins and lights, and that can even help your creativity.

For me, those interfaces are much like watching an MTV Video, I prefer simplicity. There was a program called Master Tracks Pro, a midi sequencer, which was so simple you had ten times the productivity than with other sequencers. That was a great program.

Choose that wisely.

Cheers, Andrés
 
I think that the interface is the best thing that Digi offers. It's so easy to use and so similar to the operating system itself that is a charm to use. [/quote[

You use a Mac, right? If so, I can understand. Pro Tools has a OS8 kinda feel, but to me that's kinda dated (I'm the one who made the "dated" comment). Plus I use Windows 2000, and Pro Tools' interface is not similar at all to the OS.

I realize that interface preferance is subjective, but based upon user interface guidelines for software developers, Vegas has the interface which most closely conforms to the OS as it uses as much of the Windows API as it possibly can.
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The converters on the 001 are very good. I wouldn't call them prosumer, I would say they're professional. I've seen them on a scope versus MOTU, Crystal, Echo, and a few others, and they hold their own. Now, the Delta 1010 probably has the best converters out there, but the Digi001 converters can play with any other box in the price range.

As far as the software feeling dated, I agree, it's a little old-school. To me, however, it is the app that best reflects a real-world, mixer-and-tape scenario. I don't need my mixer to be blue chrome with animated graphics in order for me to feel like I'm working on a quality piece of software. You wanna check out a dated UI? Check out a Neve board or a Studer 24-track analog machine.

I run PTLE on a PIII-866, and I easily get 24 tracks plus a bunch of plugins, so I don't know what was up with the user who was only getting 3 tracks. That's messed up, but I think most users would return the software and hardware if that was the case.
 
Cool, thanks everyone, for the replies to my question embedded in a question. Charger, I was glad to hear from you, because I know you worked at Digi (I'm wondering if you were there at the time I was doing marketing writing on contract in TD's group ....) and that your experience seeing it on the scope was recent enough to comment on comparison's with AKMs, Crystal, etc.

Now, FWIW and my own opinion of Pro Tools software based on the Free version for PC, I have to say, I find it to be the easiest damn thing to work with ... I like it much better than Cool Edit for routing, using plug-ins, etc. AND, on my PIII Intel chipset/Award BIOS PC with 192 MB of RAM and a 40 GB hard drive, the performance has been fine for me. But I haven't pushed it. It's crashed, sure, but I've found the biggest culprit was really having MIDI cables and SPDIF inputs hooked in and not going to any device. Take those off or connect them to something before firing up the program, and all seems well. I'm definitely entertaining the Digi 001 based on my LE-esque experiences with my PC and Free. But, I don't have much experience with competitor's products -- just CEP and Cakewalk. Like PT Better.
 
I don't know what was up with the user who was only getting 3 tracks
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That was me, and that was with the free Pro Tools, which we determined is meant to keep people from even considering Digidesign products...or something like that. I, like I suppose many others, thought this was indicative of the real Pro Tools. We've apparently been misled. Maybe this free Pro Tools thing was Steinberg or Emagic's idea.
 
JFogarty said:
I'd get the alesis AI-3 anyway, its only 300 or so, plus you can tell people you can record 16 tracks at once. You can charge people twice as much ;)
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Does anybody knows where to get Alesis AI-3,i heard that they are not manufacturing it any more??


(after 2 months of wondering,I bought digi001)
 
For the AI-3 check the trading posts like Sweetwater. I see them there ocasionally for 200 (ish).

Now that the ADAT light pipe is so popular they are getting harder to find.

Thanks everyone for your posts.
 
why is everyone talking about the pre's on the digi 001? they are shit (i heard) and there are only1 or 2 can't remember...

so you'll need pre's anyway, right? i'm talking about recording a full band at once here...
guhlenn
 
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