Delta 66 .vs Delta 1010lt

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Aside from price difference, number of inputs, pre-amps, and other obvious differences, is there any reason why the 66 might be preferable to the 1010lt?

The prices are near enough to not be of much consequence.

The 1010lt has built in pre-amps?
Are they worth a crap?
They could be handy being as I only have a single DMP3.

I came very near to just ordering the 1010lt a minute ago, but decided to wait and see what the good peoples here at HR had to say :D

Thanx in advance!
 
I thnk the LT is unbalanced but don't quote me on that. The convertors in the 66 are higher quality
 
I can't speak to the Delta 66, but the 1010LT is working nicely for my needs.
I researched quite a few different audio interfaces, and I had narrowed it down to the Tascam FW-1804 (found it for $475), the EMU-1820(found it for $349) and the Delta 1010 ($399). The deal breaker for the EMU 1820, is that it is not rackmount sized. Where do you put it? On your desk? with all the wires hanging out of the back? This was really a damn shame, because I liked the feature set it had, I just couldnt think of a convenient place to put it. The FW-1804 seemed a little more attractive than the 1010 because it has ADAT which would let me expand to 16 inputs if I needed.

Then I saw the 1010LT. It would give me as many inputs as any of these do right out of the box, for $199. I figured all I need is an RCA>1/4" recording snake to my mixer direct (channel) outs and I am set. That's what I decided to do, only I picked one up from the HR "Free Ads for Music / Recording Equipment" board for $95 which I had to jump on. It worked exactly like I thought it would, giving me 8 additional analog ins (check the 66, I bet it is only 4 analog inputs plus SPDIF and MIDI). I figure I can get another one the next time I see a good deal, and have 16 inputs and it would still cost far less than any of the others solutions. Just my $.02 !
 
amra said:
worked exactly like I thought it would, giving me 8 additional analog ins (check the 66, I bet it is only 4 analog inputs plus SPDIF and MIDI).
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4 analog and S/PDIF on the 66
8 analog and S/PDIF on the 1010

up to 4 cards in the one system so if you had 4 1010's that's 32in/32out

I run a delta 1010 (not the lt) and two delta 410s for 18in/30out (yes I use my S/PDIF ports) to connect to my mixer (soundtracs Topaz project 8)

The cards are solid with good drivers. Good A/D D/A convertors for the price. I always seen the Delta cards aimed at the outboard mixer user market. no bells or whistles, just nice clean conversion going in and out of the box

and the lt IS unbalanced
 
The 1010lt pre's are pretty much useless. You have to set the gain for the pre's via jumpers on the pci card. There is no gain knob. But, you can turn off the pre's and use your own. I would look at the 1010lt as having 8 line in/outs, 1 midi in/out, and 2 SPDIF in/outs. It's a good deal for 8 in/outs if you already have plenty of pre's or a mixer. If not, I'd check at the Presonus firepod.
 
Thanks for the replies.
I have researched this in the not so distant, yet un-remembered past!
The search function did not immediately reveal a thread I thought I'd seen, where this very issue had been discussed in some detail.

I printed up 10 or so pages from the 1010lt manual earlier while I was at work. I've had a copy of the Delta 66 manual laying around a while.
Unfortunately, between work/progenies' extracurricular activites/etc., I've had scarce time to search/read.

So....If I don't even have time to learn about it, will I even have time to use it? :eek: :rolleyes:

Well, that's the wonderful thing about PTO/vacation time, now isn't it!

Once again, thanks!
 
cellarD, the first thing I do when I get interested in a piece of gear is go to their website and download all the litriature I can find on it. You'd be amazed about the amount of crap gear I would own if I hadn't done that. I love this board cause it's all people in the same boat but with first hand experience about the stuff you need to know. That being said.... beware the new comer telling you their new behringer ultra mega pro product is the most amazing thing ever compared to........ well they have nothing to compare it to cause they didn;t use the search or do the research ;)
 
LemonTree said:
cellarD, the first thing I do when I get interested in a piece of gear is go to their website and download all the litriature I can find on it. You'd be amazed about the amount of crap gear I would own if I hadn't done that. I love this board cause it's all people in the same boat but with first hand experience about the stuff you need to know.
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I ABSOLUTELY agree with you on both counts. I've read most of the Delta 66 manual, but didn't have the necessary absence of co-workers required to print the manual for the 1010.

I'll try to find that thread I mentioned and read up on it more.
When I posted this, I was impulsively close to buying the 1010lt :o . I'm glad I paused to consult the resident guru's here first.
 
question though, since the delta 1010 lt has 8 line in's .. and my behringer ub-2222fxpro has 8 Inserts.. I can use the 1 click method right ??

but i read its Pre-EQ , Pre-FADER so how do i do this ?? lets say i record my drums using 8 mics.. i dont need to adjust the levels on my board ??? wont it clip or something? if it goes too high?? hmm..
 
fweyd said:
question though, since the delta 1010 lt has 8 line in's .. and my behringer ub-2222fxpro has 8 Inserts.. I can use the 1 click method right ??

but i read its Pre-EQ , Pre-FADER so how do i do this ?? lets say i record my drums using 8 mics.. i dont need to adjust the levels on my board ??? wont it clip or something? if it goes too high?? hmm..
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Doesn't your board have a "Gain" knob for each channel strip? That should be all you need. Just adjust that until your levels are peaking where you want, and go.
 
Can someone verify the information below?
Specifically the location of converters on the 66 and 1010lt?

Here's a link to Slackmasters2k post

Slackmaster said:
On the Delta44 and 66, the breakout boxes are for convenience only. On the 1010, the converters are in the breakout box and have a seperate power supply. This translates to a lower noise floor and slightly better sound (slight, but noticable). Because the signal between the breakout and the card on the 1010 is digital, the cable is 10' instead of the 6' unbalanced analog cable included with the 44/66. The 1010 breakout is also rack size.
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Im also interested in this thread.

Right now I have a Audiophile 24/96. Would I gain any huge benefits by going with a 66 or 1010LT convertor wize?

Reason I want to upgrade is because, I heard its good to plug a pre-amp directly into the soundcard and not thru a cheap mixer. I have a Beri 602a. It does have 2 line inputs.
 
LemonTree said:
I thnk the LT is unbalanced but don't quote me on that. The convertors in the 66 are higher quality
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The manual says balanced or unbalanced.
 
cellardweller said:
Can someone verify the information below?
Specifically the location of converters on the 66 and 1010lt?

"Originally Posted by Slackmaster
On the Delta44 and 66, the breakout boxes are for convenience only. On the 1010, the converters are in the breakout box and have a seperate power supply. This translates to a lower noise floor and slightly better sound (slight, but noticable). Because the signal between the breakout and the card on the 1010 is digital, the cable is 10' instead of the 6' unbalanced analog cable included with the 44/66. The 1010 breakout is also rack size."
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it means that on the 66, the conversion from analogue to digital in the computer, next to all the noisy stuff inside the pootah. the breakout box is just there to make it nice and easy to plug things into. in the 1010, the conversion happens outside in the breakout box, away from all the noisy stuff... i can imagine the lt does the same as the 66.

(btw, i like my 66, and have never had any problems with it - i'm glad i payed the extra over the 44 for the SPDIF, now i've learnt what to do with it... :p)

Andy
 
punkin said:
The manual says balanced or unbalanced.
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and the phono plug conectors suggest unbalanced. I suppose the two inputs with the pre's will be balanced but the other 6 in and the 8 out will be unbalanced
 
cellardweller said:
Can someone verify the information below?
Specifically the location of converters on the 66 and 1010lt?

Here's a link to Slackmasters2k post
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That post is a few years old. There were driver problems with running multiple cards on XP/2000 but that's all history. The 1010 is the only one with the convertors in the breakout box
 
Yea,...I know what you mean about the RCA connectors...I'm not sure how they get away with it but the RCA's are said to accept balanced and unbalanced connections. I'm guess that the outer connection on the RCA isn't ground but rather floating...the third ground wire simply not there?????? :confused:
 
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