Delta 1010

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Can I run a guitar directly into the delta 1010
or do I need a preamp or direct box?

If so...which preamp?
 
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I sugguest, that you use behringer TUBE ULTRAGAIN mic 100. I use it as mic preamp or D.I. box for bass guitars and guitars and it works fine.

As the other direct sollution you could use simple guitar multi -effect or distortion pedal. It should work!

But I still prefer to record my guitars with microphone and guitar amp!

Bye!
 
If you can stretch to it, the Behringer V-Amp 2 at £99 sterling works well for me (I was just after a cheap way of getting a reasonable sounding guitar in to my mixes). People bitch about it but if you're on a budget, it does do a lot for the money. Plugging in to the pre's via some kind of XLR to 1/4inch jack adapter is something I tried when I first got my rig. Results were poor - sounds really scratchy and thin. You can beef it up using distortion plugs, compression, chorus etc. but it still sounds a bit shite.
 
Hi, Pardon me for buttingin. I put Delta 1010 in the search engine and this thread came up. I'm looking for someone who is using the Delta 1010, I'm going to buy this ADA and would like comments on the unit, also the supplied software bundle. I'll be using a Soundcraft mixer (analog) to the Delta, into a P4 845, 1.9 Ghz, XP pro, 80 gig HD & Nec CDRW. I've been thinking Sonar 3 as an additional software and Sound Forge for editing. Any comments would be helpful. Thanks Ralph
 
hey 87prs,

i have one, and i like it fine. got mine used for $350. i'm running it alongside with an Audiophile 2496 for 10 inputs. my machine is a dell optiplex gx1, with a powerleap 1.2ghz and 384mb ram. no problems pulling 10 tracks in or playing 20 back. your machine should be plenty powerful. you'll eat that 80gb hard drive for lunch, though.

i use a mackie 24*4 into it, tapping the inserts for outs (so all i'm using the mackie for is its pres). your soundcraft should work similarly.

i don't use any of the software in the bundle. the 1010 is noticibly quieter and cleaner than the audiophile 2496, mainly b/c the converters are in the outboard box instead of on the card.

if this is your first foray into computer multitrack recording, you could do better (RME, Lynx, but they're much more expensive), but you could do much, much worse. the delta 1010 does a fine job IMO.


wade
 
U sure the RME is better? I think it's pretty much the same. I don't know Lynx.

Anyways, I'm asking cuz I wanna buy something really good, not just good. Was thinking about the 1010, but if there is something out there that's gonna cost only 500$ more and have a noticeable difference, then I'm gonna go for it.

(mk i dont wanna change subject here sorr, just ignore if it pleases you better)
 
Shakuan said:
U sure the RME is better? I think it's pretty much the same. I don't know Lynx.

Anyways, I'm asking cuz I wanna buy something really good, not just good. Was thinking about the 1010, but if there is something out there that's gonna cost only 500$ more and have a noticeable difference, then I'm gonna go for it.

(mk i dont wanna change subject here sorr, just ignore if it pleases you better)
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The RME is around $800, I think.

For $500 the 1010 will probably be your best bet.
 
to be honest, i have no experience with the RME and can't comment on it firsthand, but from searching the archives, it seems that folks here who have had experience with both it and a 1010 seem to notice some discernable quality difference between the two. but they're also people i'd figure would be able to hear the difference, too (not everyone can or knows what to listen for). i know i hear the difference between the 2496 and the 1010. i think the RME goes for around $800. i got my 1010 for $350 used, and that was a no-brainer.

the lynx i was referring to is a 2-channel card and runs about $450, iirc. obviously a little different ballgame than the 8 channel 1010 for roughly the same price. for roughly what amounts to $65/channel versus roughly $225/channel, i'd certainly expect there to be a step up in quality.

and of course they go up and down from there. i would recommend doing some research, establishing your budget and buying the best piece of gear your budget will allow. i can't tell you to buy a 1010 or RME if an apogee or lucid might better suit your needs, goals and budget.....and likewise, i'm not going to suggest buying a 1010 when a DMP3 or AudioBuddy might better suit your needs, goals and budget. if you're unsure, buy from someone with a good return policy and evaluate them for yourself.


wade
 
Wade, thanks for your help man. This is my first computer studio...and unlike some people an extra $500 could buy me something to enhance my recordings, like another jam up condenser or more>gigs<haha All I've heard is good stuff about the 1010, and I'm just wanting a good interface to run my mic pres through to the comp. Could you tell be more about the hd going out to lunch, what do you run? Also the software...lotsa programs out there $100-$1200 I want something intuitive for a first timer, I didn't graduate rocket academy, but want like 32 tracks minimum. I really appreciate your help. I've been playing music for over 35 years, been recorded, now it's time to sit on my butt and do demos for other aspiring artists. Thanks - Ralph
 
Ralph,
Welcome to the site man...
I have a 1010 and record digitally and edit with Cool Edit Pro 2...
(new version is called Audition)...no track limit...great editing...
Sonar and Soundforge are fine products as well...
Your PC can handle a lot of different softwares...
They all have a learning curve but, hey....that's what manuals and the forums here are for...

Joe
 
Hey Joe, thanks for the response and also for the "welcome"! This is a great forum and i've learned alot hanging around here in a short time. Who's Cool Edit made by? Is Cakewalk Home Studio 2004 XL worth spending $150 on, or should I just get into the newer updates, I'm 54, retired, two degrees maybe I can learn a new trick or two.lol I want to spend between $350-500 starting out for software. I sure dont' want to spend hours of recording and have it all crash (worse digital fear haha). My son & I have been building a studio out back since August, and I'm happy to say it's in the ceiling drywall stage : ) so...buying & setting up the euipment is just around the corner, Hello Santa!
 
Hey Ralph,
Syntrillium made Cool Edit Pro...
They sold all recently to Adobe who revamped and re-named the software "Audition"....from what I understand...it still runs a lot like CEP....

Can't help you on the Cakewalk question....sorry man...there is a Cakewalk forum here that is very active....

check out some posts...

BTW...CEP is/was expensive....over $400.00 US...

take it easy man,
Joe
 
Shakuan said:
U sure the RME is better? I think it's pretty much the same. I don't know Lynx.

Anyways, I'm asking cuz I wanna buy something really good, not just good. Was thinking about the 1010, but if there is something out there that's gonna cost only 500$ more and have a noticeable difference, then I'm gonna go for it.

(mk i dont wanna change subject here sorr, just ignore if it pleases you better)
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you can get the Lynx l22 2 analog ins and outs as well as word clock sync and aes/spdif in & out....IMNSHO it shits all over the m-audio stuff...

check it out

http://www.atlasproaudio.com/lynx.html
 
Thanks, you all have been a big help. So, Teacher, if I run a Lynxx two in two out would I have to have a digital board to record a whole band at once? Or would i just be able to get two in at one recording? This is still puzzling me. Can different software programs be mixed together on my computer to record and edit with, and if so is there some way they have to match to run together. I know there's other forums on the bbs, but I got ya'll here, so I thought maybe I could get better info., if not what? Thanks again for all your time and help. Ralph
Merry Christmas
 
The lynxx will only record 2 analog channels at once and play back 2. The S/PDIF in out is digital left & right, stereo in and stereo out...again only 2 channels.

I've been using the DELTA 1010 for about 11 months now. 8 analog ins 8 analog outs and S/PDIF in & out. It's a fantastic card for the price with excellent convertors. I'm about to add a DELTA 410 to my system bringing me up to 10 in 16 out analog channels. depending on how that works out I'll probably add another 410 further down the line giving me 12 ins and 24 outs.

The 1010 retalis at £449 and the 410 for £130. I can't find anything anywhere CLOSE that gives me 12 ins and 24 outs for £700.

M-Audio rocks.

That being said, it should be pointed out that the delta series had some issues with running multiple cards on win2000 and winXP. I'm a 98se user so no such problems for me :)

As far as software goes, I've been using cool edit pro for a couple of years. Zero latency! and the editing capabilities are outstanding. I used to record in CEP then import all the tracks into cubase for mixdown. now I just bring it all back through the desk and use outboard effects. Software plugins can be great when you're on a budget but you can't beat hands on knob fiddling ;)

Good luck

Alec.
 
Hey Alex...thanks for the response. That's exactly what I want to do, go out through my mixer and mix/edit, using my outboard gear (effects, etc.) I'm a knob fiddler too lol. Okay, if I buy the 1010, and get CEP, which I think is now Audition (is this right?) these two elements are all I need to do some good recording,editing and masters? I don't need the Sound Forge 7.0 for editing? I would like to start with 8/8 and learn, but would like to have at least 32 tracks to dub on. Where can I find the CEP to check it out? Thanks for your help, Happy Holidays
 
Teacher said:
you can get the Lynx l22 2 analog ins and outs as well as word clock sync and aes/spdif in & out....IMNSHO it shits all over the m-audio stuff...

check it out

http://www.atlasproaudio.com/lynx.html
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if by S%#^ you mean the 0.5 % improvement in quality that only the best mastering engineers can hear, and which probably only exists because a reviewer has implanted into our subconsious that it exists, justified in our minds by the exponential price being charged for the value, then you are absolutely correct.

I can get rid of everything in my studio, but I'll never get rid of my delta 1010.

When I was more easily influenced by "pros" I got talked into purchasing a lucid ad9624 two channel converter AND a lucid gen-x6 wordclock.

I spent $750 on the two channel lucid and $500 on the gen-x6 wordclock.

These units are worldclass studio quality units and they was no noticeable improvement in sound quality to my ears. In fact, there was a loss of quality which I'll explain.

To the defense of Lucid. I recorded the same track from my sound module to the delta 1010 and the lucid. A friend blindly picked the 2 lucid tracks as sounding better out of four tracks. I could never hear the difference.

The wordclock on the delta 1010 was tighter in the low end than the dedicated genx6 wordclock. Is that amazing or what?

The delta 1010 is AMAZING VALUE FOR MONEY
get this unit and you can afford to spend your money on other things that really count. You know, things that actually make a difference in the sound quality of the mix.
 
87PRS said:
Hey Alex...thanks for the response. That's exactly what I want to do, go out through my mixer and mix/edit, using my outboard gear (effects, etc.) I'm a knob fiddler too lol. Okay, if I buy the 1010, and get CEP, which I think is now Audition (is this right?) these two elements are all I need to do some good recording,editing and masters? I don't need the Sound Forge 7.0 for editing? I would like to start with 8/8 and learn, but would like to have at least 32 tracks to dub on. Where can I find the CEP to check it out? Thanks for your help, Happy Holidays
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Cool edit, or audition as it's now called has unlimited audio tracks (dependant on the specs of your computer) and it will fill all your recording/editing/mastering needs. It retails at $299 here's a link......

ADOBE AUDITION
 
I went to the Adobe Audition site. I use some Adobe programs at present and I've always been impressed with them. The Audition appears to have what I'm looking for, I mean 45,000 loop samples wow. Don't know at the moment what I'd do with all that, but it sounds impressive. Also the info says the Audition has 128 tracks and that's good enough for me. It's lookin' like Delta 1010 and Audition. Can I go wrong?
BTW thanks twyla for starting this thread! Happy Holidays. Ralph
 
to all you non believers who think the delta 1010 is the end all be all of converters and the lynx2 is a small step up check this out


http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=98276&perpage=25&highlight=Just got a Lynx&pagenumber=2

i'm not sure if the audio files are still up but everyone heard a noticeable difference between the 2...if the files are still up and u listen and don't hear a difference you need to get into another line or work/hobby...YMMV
 
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