Delta 1010 installation problems

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Actually, I'm waiting on the computer host cable and power supply I ordered from M-Audio last week..

Mike, I think you're right about my garbled audio being CPU related as I was trying to play back .bun files. I think I'll dump the audio to the HD and see what happens.
 
update....

After spending w-a-a-a-y-y too much time on the phone with Musicians friend and M-audio,the tech support manager has agreed to send an authorisation for return to MF.Because of course MF would not take the return without it.
I a wee bit skeptical as to the outcome but hopefully the worst is behind me.:rolleyes:
So where does this leave me?:confused: Probably reinstalling my 2496.:( :eek:
MF supposedly has given me credit to the tune of $16 for my calls to tech support.I'll be waiting for my bill and if the calls amount to more than that I'll call the "Friend" back a see what they have to say about that.I've already lost quite a few hours on installation and troubleshooting on a card that never worked in the first place.

$120 under list such a deal!:rolleyes:
 
ChuckU said:

Mike, I think you're right about my garbled audio being CPU related as I was trying to play back .bun files. I think I'll dump the audio to the HD and see what happens.
Chuck, actually when you open a .bun file, Sonar makes a temp copy of the wave data in your audio folder on your hdd (however, it's just one big-ass wave file, since it was compacted when you created the bun). Dumping the audio to the hard drive will just do the same thing.

BTW, Yankees can't beat anyone for the entire month of May - except for the Red Sox. That's gotta hurt. :(

AR, good luck. Sounds like you might need to start dealing with a new music store.
 
Hmmm... Reading thru, your not saying what version of Windows you have.
Windows 2000 can not have in excess of 10 channels. So if you have not fully uninstalled previous card drivers (including on-board sound), it probably won't accept the 1010. The same can happen if you have incorrectly installed the 1010 drivers and not uninistalled before trying again. XP has a limit of 32 channels (I think) but you could still hit the limit if you have too many bad install/uninstalls.
Make sure you run the Delta uninstaller. For 2k/XP DO use the latest uninstaller which is listed under BETA drivers. The one on your driver CD doesn't work properly.
I'd check I'd done this before blaming the hardware, although having done it to no avail, it would look almost certain to be the box or umbilical cable at fault.
 
What do you mean windows 2000 can not have in excess of 10 channels? Channels of what?
 
Each stereo in or out is 1 channel. Windows treats each of these as an audio device (by device, they mean each channel that can be selected as an in or out - not the pci card). The same goes for midi although you are unlikely to want more than 10 midi ports, if you have an 8x8 midi port and dont "Fully" uninstall a previous install of its drivers, Win 2K wont see it on the next install. For exactly this reason, M-audio provide a midi uninstaller too. Just uninstalling in the device manager isn't enough because Windows hangs on to the device details in case it sees it again. All uninstall here does is prevent Windows getting upset when it can't find the device.

Even removing a sound card does not stop Windows from knowing about it and counting it. The same Plug&Play system has to cope with USB devices which may or may not be connected. So to clear all traces of a device an uninstaller utility should be run (after using the uninstall in the device manager). Uninstall means removing every file and registry entry related to the device so a little utility program is the best way to achieve this.

M-audios earlier Delta uninstaller did not do the job properly in Win2000/XP. Get the one you'll see by ticking the "Show Beta" in their web sites drivers search. Or, while your at it, get the 29x12 driver (it includes the uninstaller). Although it's listed as a Beta version, 29x12 really is the best Delta driver so far where multitrack recording is your primary use.

I've gone to the trouble of typing all this and you still don't say what Windows you're running !!!
 
I'm running XP....

I fully uninstalled everything,even doing searches of all Delta related files and using the proper uninstaller versions.I also went through all the same stuff with M-audio's tech support.....three times!

I finally got M-audio to convince Musicians friend the card was a dud and sent it back last night.I won't be replacing it,as the unit was a "scratch and dent"with a reduced price,my main reason for buying the unit.

And that my friends,is the end of the story.:rolleyes:
 
Jim Y said:
Windows 2000 can not have in excess of 10 channels. .
How then do you explain the fact that people have been running multiple 1010's for years. One that I know who posts on the Sonar newsgroup is running 3 Delta 1010's on Win 98. That's at least 12 channels by your definition.

Sorry, but I don't buy this one - at least not the way you explained it.
 
Under ASIO you can. Windows2000 MME/Direct Sound Device limit is most definately 10. This limit is for Windows 2000 only. I did specifically say that didn't I ?
 
I'm not sure I agree with that. If you're counting input and output, I most definitely have run in excess of 10 channels under Win2k (that was the original claim, Mike).

I recorded a band with all 10 inputs at 24-bit, including spdif. Outputs 1,2 to mixer and outputs 3,4 to my patchbay for aux send/return.


That's 14. One card. I have another 1010 that I just got cables for. I can test this out. As soon as I figure out how to run two of these at the same time:rolleyes:

BTW, Mike, the underwater went away when I increased latency. OK, I also uninstalled and reinstalled the WDM drivers. How do I get it to use ASIO drivers?
 
Chuck, I assume you are running Sonar 2.2. Otherwise you can't use ASIO. If so, go to Options > Audio > Advanced. Click the drop down menu next to Driver Mode and select ASIO.

Sorry, Jim Y, I did note that you said Win2K, but assumed it would apply to earlier versions of Windows as well. Makes no sense that 2K would have more severe limitations than 98, but who knows.

BTW, Chuck, he did say 10 STEREO channels in his original claim. So inputs 1/2, 3/4, etc. would be a single channel for each pair.
the underwater went away when I increased latency
Makes sense. That would have lessened the load on the CPU.
 
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