delta 1010 help

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Do you mean the channel faders of which the signal is being routed back to? Because if I turn the faders down, it seems to control the volume for both my monitors and my headphones. The volume goes down to both my monitors and headphones.

So, how do I keep the signal from my main outs, but allow it to be heard through my headphones?
 
are your headphones plugged into your control room out? or headphone jack on the mixer? there should be a control for that on the mixer......what kind of mixer are you using so i can get a visual
 
It's a Yamaha MG12/4. My headphones are plugged into the headphone jack. I have the CR out going to my monitors.
 
well your headphones and control room out are controlled by the same knob.....i dont mean this as cruel, ugly or snappy but i dont see why you cant just get up and turn the monitors off when your using the headphones. .this goes against what dachay2tnr believes but when it comes to monitoring through the headphones, just turn off your monitors
 
dachay2tnr said:
Routing the Delta outputs directly to the monitors does not allow for any volume control over them. Whereas routing them to the mixer allows the mixer's faders to control the monitor volume levels - including the ability to turn them off completely when recording. Exactly how do you turn them off when routed directly from the sound card? Pull the plugs??

As I said earlier, this makes very little sense. He owns the mixer, it has inserts, why not let him make proper use of it? Particularly since the minute he wants to record three tracks at a time, this approach doesn't work anymore anyway.
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If the 1010lt comes with the same Control Panel software as my Delta 44, then the Monitor Mixer feature lets you adjust the relative volumes of what you're recording with what's already been recorded. If you want to turn the monitors off completely, just check the Mute box. That's why you don't need to route back to the mixer for monitoring purposes. It's simpler, there's less cabling and there's no feedback issues.

I agree the inserts are one way to achieve what he want's to do, but I have that same Yamaha mixer and the best way to do it imo is take the first 2 tracks off the Mains out, the next 2 tracks off the Stereo Outs, and if any more are needed after that, then use the inserts. Even then using inserts like that reduces flexibility as you can no longer utilise the aux routing capability for outboard effects
 
ok yeah......when recording and listening through the headphones just turn off the monitors.....that way you should hear your mics and the playback....if you want to hear it through the monitors then turn the monitors on and turn the faders up...i think that works.
 
The thing is: even when my monitors are turned off, and I am monitoring with headphones, the previous recordings are being rerecorded. They bleed into my overdubs.
 
If you run the outputs from your 1010 into a couple of spare channels in the mixer, at the bottom of those channels there are a couple of buttons - can't remember what they're called. One of them lights up, the other doesn't. These buttons control whether the channel output goes to the Mains and/ or the Stereo outs. You should be able to set those buttons so the signal on those channels does not go to your Mains out, but still gets sent to the CR out
 
does using your inserts work yet?


ok using the mics.....lets say they are plugged into track 1 and 2.....you have a button that says 1-2 right beside the faders.....press it in on track 1 and 2.....pan 1 left pan 2 right.
in the rear of the mixer ...connect your delta 1010 to the Group 1 and 2

above the Group1-2 fader is an TO ST button....press it in

right below your C-R/Phones Knob there is a ST/Group button....depress that so it will hear the ST. on your two channels that have your soundcard signal comming in....make sure that the 1-2 buttons are not pressed in......


I think this should work for getting the mic channels all by themselves into the delta1010 and the monitoring should be a seperate signal not being recorded but you can still hear it and your mics through the C-R/Phones.
 
That worked well! The monitored sound is no longer bleeding into my overdubs.
 
BOOOYA!!!! any other problems before i go grab a few beers and become incoherent?
 
your welcome......and now a round of shots! whos with me!?
 
distortedrumble said:
your welcome......and now a round of shots! whos with me!?
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OK, I'm in!!! :D

Good work, gentlemen. I didn't completely follow everything that transpired here, but it looks like success was achieved.

One other thing. I am not familiar with the Yammie mixer, but if the control room volume knob also controls the headphones, why not connect you monitor speakers to the Main Outs, rather than CR outs? You want the ability to have separate control over the monitors and headphones, so that you can silence the monitors while still using the headphones.

Or I guess you can just turn them off. :rolleyes: :D
 
allenmertes said:
Instead of using balanced cables and only plugging them in until the first 'click,' would it work the same to use unbalanced and plug them in all the way?
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The idea here is that you don't use balanced cables at all. The "balanced" cable - actually a TRS cable - is carrying two (unbalanced) signals when plugged all the way into the insert; the first click finds the send and the second the return. I believe you get the signal path being T=Return hot; R= send hot; S=neutral.

Take an unbalanced 1/4" plug and plug it in to the first click only and you are connecting: T= Send hot; S=ground. That's what you need to send the signal to the recorder.

By avoiding the second click, you avoid interrupting the signal to the channel strip, as you would otherwise have done in sending it first to an outboard effects unit and then back into the channel strip.

What you get instead is a tap - after the trim and before anything else. Its a low impedance line level signal to the recorder.
 
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