Delay Pedal Setup Question

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This is a hypothetical question at this point since I have not purchased the equipment I am talking about yet. What I am asking about is related to the mixing of sound with a delay effect and possibly other effects. Is there a way I could create an effects loop with a guitar amplifier that would adjust delay and looping settings (I'm thinking something like a Line 6 DL4) that would modify the sound coming out of the amp after the amp's settings rather than before. The reason why I ask is because I don't want to not be able to use the amp's OD or light reverb because the delay effect comes before it in the chain. I don't think I want a post-delay colored overdrive coming from the amp.

Not this setup:
Guitar > Initial pedal set-up (Distortion, OD, Flange, etc.) > Line 6 DL4 Effects/Looping > Guitar Amp

But something like this:
Guitar > Initial pedal set-up (Distortion, OD, Flange, etc.) > Guitar Amp (+ reverb possibly, +OD, etc.) > Line 6 DL4 > Back out straight to the amp speaker, uncolored by effects

Is this possible? If it isn't, I suppose the other way to do it is mic the amp and have the Line 6 DL4 on a seperate chain modifiying the the miked sound. But I don't think that's very practical, especially if I'm messing around with it at home. I'd like to at least have the option of using something other than the clean channel on my amp when playing around with delay. I do have two decent distortion/OD pedals if my hypothetical setup isn't practical, but I'd like to have more options as well, since that situation would probably require a lot more compromise.
 
well it really depends on your amp... some have two seperate channels.. so you could run all your dirty stuff into the OD channel, then use a line out or splitter or something to run through your delay pedal then into your clean channel....

the only other option would be to use no amp-efx.. all outboard...
you would then split the signal from your guitar into the dirty line and the delay line.. these lines would run through their efx and then into the amps clean channel... youll be able to tweak the mix levels with the last OD pedal in your efx line.. hopefully this has a main volume to limit it compared to the dealy (otherwise itll be much louder)..

oh third option.. get a mega stompbox multipedal that has internal programmnig to do what i just described.. itll increase the cost but cut wayyyy back onwiring hassles..

gl
 
Thanks for the quick response.

According to your analysis, I think I'm going to have to use only outboard effects placed before my delay setup, whenever I use it.
 
I'm not sure what you're asking. It sounds like you just need an amp with an effects loop.
 
Yeah, I used to do this all the time. All you need is an amp with an effects loop. Put all your other effects between your guitar and your amp, and then put the delay (Line6 DL4 is a great one BTW) in the effects loop. That way, you can change channels on the amp without affecting the echoes or loops the delay is already playing. I'm not entirely sure how or if it could be done without an effects loop. Some really good amp techs are able to add effects loops to amps, but you have to make sure they REALLY know what they're doing.
 
sile2001 said:
Yeah, I used to do this all the time. All you need is an amp with an effects loop. Put all your other effects between your guitar and your amp, and then put the delay (Line6 DL4 is a great one BTW) in the effects loop. That way, you can change channels on the amp without affecting the echoes or loops the delay is already playing. I'm not entirely sure how or if it could be done without an effects loop. Some really good amp techs are able to add effects loops to amps, but you have to make sure they REALLY know what they're doing.
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Thanks, I think that's my answer. The crap amp I have been using until now doesn't have an effects loop so I hadn't factored that in. Seems like that would do the trick.
 
Another option would be to ditch the obsolete pedals and purchase a multi FX device such as a Boss GT-8, Line 6 XTL, or one of the many other 21st century units. ;)
 
ocnor said:
Another option would be to ditch the obsolete pedals and purchase a multi FX device such as a Boss GT-8, Line 6 XTL, or one of the many other 21st century units. ;)
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One man's "obsolete" is another man's "vintage".
 
ocnor said:
Another option would be to ditch the obsolete pedals and purchase a multi FX device such as a Boss GT-8, Line 6 XTL, or one of the many other 21st century units. ;)
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My GT8 can't do looping...
 
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