Definition of a "HOOK"

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Jotosuds said:

stone me if you must, but Avril Lavigne's, I'm With You, is a song with amazing structure and deceptively strong hookiness.

the intro is hooky, the verse is hooky, the buildup is hooky, the chorus is definitely hooky, i see a pattern here :D

there's just something about that song that blows me away. it has a vibe and flow that is very subtle, but grabs your attention. the structure of the progressions and the buildup inbetween is very well done and catches the ear.

marvelous work in songwriting IMO.
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indeed even as a metalhead I've loved this song since I first heard it, for its construction and its feeling (sshh don't tell my friends)
 
Mozart had the killer hooks.

dun dun dun duda da
da da dun dun dun duda da

If you study his work it will benefit you in the hook factor.
 
reel buzzer said:
Mozart had the killer hooks.

dun dun dun duda da
da da dun dun dun duda da

If you study his work it will benefit you in the hook factor.
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sorry dude your lyric is Vivaldi/Four Seasons "Movement 1. Spring"

Hehe
 
Can anyone give some examples of a song/songs WITHOUT a hook? I can't really think of any. Perhaps they elude my memory due to their lack of 'hookiness'.

IMO-seems like alot of the country artists (not me, I'm ALT country) are the most ruthless 'hookers' out there. Some of these guys/gals just have a knack for transforming a common phrase or cliche' into an infectious, sometimes obnoxious hook that can quickly spread and consume entire nations. (ala Achey Breaky Heart)
 
Some will oldham/bonnie prince billy stuff? When I first heard master and everyone it didn't sound like anything but now it's gotten under my skin and it makes me goosebumpy. Sort of like a slow burning hook? I suppose that means it isn't hooky at all? More of a well hidden snare?

S'pose it depends how you define a hook (not easy as demonstrated by this thread).

My theory is that less hooky music generally has the potential to be more enduring. Most immediate/catchy stuff I get bored with very quickly even if I really like it at first.

Of course there are exceptions.
 
Kevin DeSchwazi said:

My theory is that less hooky music generally has the potential to be more enduring. Most immediate/catchy stuff I get bored with very quickly even if I really like it at first.

Of course there are exceptions.
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The trick is to be catchy without being annoying. :)
 
altcountry said:
Can anyone give some examples of a song/songs WITHOUT a hook? I can't really think of any. Perhaps they elude my memory due to their lack of 'hookiness'.

IMO-seems like alot of the country artists (not me, I'm ALT country) are the most ruthless 'hookers' out there. Some of these guys/gals just have a knack for transforming a common phrase or cliche' into an infectious, sometimes obnoxious hook that can quickly spread and consume entire nations. (ala Achey Breaky Heart)
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A lot of classical music does not have a hook. Some musicians try to be so complex they forget that beauty can be in simplicity. Ever heard a song so complex that you were humming the tune the next day? Of course not. It won't happen!

The most memorable classical musicians used hooks.

There's not a lot of examples of songs without hooks, since these songs never gain any recognition or popularity, for that very same reason.
 
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