Deathmetal Vocal-Mastering

[TerraMortim]

alright, thanks for the postings so far!
I don't know whether you read over, the music is an alone standing mp3-file from ht*p://myspace.com/thepartisanturbine
(The song there is upped with the old singer -> Vaginal Secretion), so I wondered, how they made it sound so powerful~

@steve.h
do you think Im a bad singer

and so there seems not to be any "secrete of death metal vocal-mastering"?

@TerraMortim
thanks for the tips, but I can't do anything with it, because all those words sound strange to me
as i mentioned... I'm a beginner in mixing/ recording

not a problem. What I mean is, the guitar is one track, correct? If it's one track, try recording the same part on another track and then putting one a bit left and one a bit right...it'll open up things in the middle for the vocals some more.

 

[TerraMortim]

I'm sorry; I have absolutely nothing worthwhile to add to this converation. I just wanted to quote that sentence all by itself out of context just to see it like that.

For some reason I can't put my finger on, that sentence is one of the most interesting pieces of prose I have read in a long, long time. It's gotta be right up there somewhere between "Four score and seven years ago" and "Dude, Where's My Car?"

G.

I don't get it . . . . . . . .

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

I don't get it . . . . . . . .

Never mind, Terra. It's like one of those 3D computer images, the harder you try to see it, the less success you'll have. It either pops out from the background at you or it doesn't.

You're not alone. I got a positive rep message last night for that post from someone who totally misundersood where I was coming from with it.

 

[rayden]

Hey man, that is a DAMN brutal song!

As for tips on making the vocals stronger (I think that the volume is fine...the overall song mix needs a bit more guitars I think, and try low-cutting the bass guitar at like 50-ish maybe), look into styles like Johnny from Job For a Cowboy (kinda the cliche death metal band, but an awesome vocalist nonetheless). You deepness is there, that isn't a problem. Try tightening up your voice a bit more so that your lows have the same scream-type-feel as when you scream higher, you get what I mean? You can hit the low growls, so just try to get them more growly and more pissed off (key example: at 1:08, when you do that deep growl into the first breakdown, try to get a low growl that kind of feels like "I'm gonna kill someone"....might help! haha). I dig the song, and I think that the vocal tone and level and everything is fine, but (no hard feelings, just constructive criticism) try to scream with more emotion.

And if you haven't listened to Job For A Cowboy, check them out. I think that you could totally take a lot away from how Johnny screams.

But good job man, I really do like the song. Very, very brutal.

Yer, I know Jhonny Davy~
I've been really impressed by his growling/ screaming, too (espacially on the doom EP)... but when I saw JFAC live... he sucked.
Thats another example for the theorie that he is "pushed" by mixing/ mastering.

And thanks for the compliments
I've listened to that song 2 times, then I did the "soundtest" by growling/ screaming over... It isn't my best, especally the scream is not that good...
normally thats one of my strenghts... and there aren't any explicit lyrics either, lol.

I'll see that I record some vocals again... could sound different to the first one but whatever... I'm looking for good sound
I'm trying to integrate your advises in that

till then~

 

[drossfile]

You're not alone. I got a positive rep message last night for that post from someone who totally misundersood where I was coming from with it.

i'm not asserting that i didn't misunderstand you (although i don't think i did), but i don't even remember what i said in the message. what did i say to make you assume this? and does this mean you're irritated about getting pos rep? if so, then...i'm sorry???

 

[Steve Henningsgard]

Hey man, that is a DAMN brutal song!

As for tips on making the vocals stronger (I think that the volume is fine...the overall song mix needs a bit more guitars I think, and try low-cutting the bass guitar at like 50-ish maybe), look into styles like Johnny from Job For a Cowboy (kinda the cliche death metal band, but an awesome vocalist nonetheless). You deepness is there, that isn't a problem. Try tightening up your voice a bit more so that your lows have the same scream-type-feel as when you scream higher, you get what I mean? You can hit the low growls, so just try to get them more growly and more pissed off (key example: at 1:08, when you do that deep growl into the first breakdown, try to get a low growl that kind of feels like "I'm gonna kill someone"....might help! haha). I dig the song, and I think that the vocal tone and level and everything is fine, but (no hard feelings, just constructive criticism) try to scream with more emotion.

And if you haven't listened to Job For A Cowboy, check them out. I think that you could totally take a lot away from how Johnny screams.

But good job man, I really do like the song. Very, very brutal.

Job for a Cowboy has nothing in the world to do with death metal. They're Grindcore.

 

[Carny1122]

Job for a Cowboy has nothing in the world to do with death metal. They're Grindcore.

Ah, I beg to differ. JFAC has become the "new" wave of Death metal. You can hear their influence from old DM bands in their newest CD (though only a bit) like Cannibal Corpse and that crowd. As of the recent, young metal scene, though, they're most definitely death metal.

You want grindcore, look at Robinson. http://www.myspace.com/robinson

Might sound like noise, and it basically is. THAT is today's grindcore. 10-15 years ago, Cannibal Corpse was grind. Not anymore. They're now considered old-school death metal. Grind these days is simply about blast beats above 200 with dissonant EVERYTHING and screaming/growling obscenities. That basically sums it up.

 

[Steve Henningsgard]

I'm fine with calling it the new wave of death metal, it just makes me sad that song-writing, flow, and "epic-ness" has gone out the window in favor of 65 riffs-per-song with zero development and being generally as un-catchy as possible...

 

[Carny1122]

Amen to that. And that statement that you just made sums up a good 95% of "metal" bands today.

And I did a bit of stalking (sorry) and checked out your band. Pretty sweet. I'd exclude you guys from the 95% and include you in the 5% of "actually talented, competent, and actual musicians" metal bands. Good stuff you've got there. Do you guys know Misery Signals personally? Your band and Misery Signals seem to pull from relative influences, both with a much more melodic style. I really like it!

 

[Steve Henningsgard]

Amen to that. And that statement that you just made sums up a good 95% of "metal" bands today.

And I did a bit of stalking (sorry) and checked out your band. Pretty sweet. I'd exclude you guys from the 95% and include you in the 5% of "actually talented, competent, and actual musicians" metal bands. Good stuff you've got there. Do you guys know Misery Signals personally? Your band and Misery Signals seem to pull from relative influences, both with a much more melodic style. I really like it!

Thanks man! You should check out our new stuff though: http://www.myspace.com/everestinprogress

We're (meaning I'm) recording it ourselves!