DBX 118/119 & 163x

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Does anyone know the differences between the the older DBX 118, or 119, and the DBX 163x, . . .?

. . and also, what exactly does an enhancer do, like in the DBX 119 model,
compared to just a compressor in the 163x . . . Thanks guys

sorry for the elementary question. . .
 
If i remember correctly the 118 and 119 were geared more torwards home stereo systems? One of these two is basically a little wooden box with a knob which controls the amount of compression applied. They are not rack mountable (or at least dont have rack ears) and have RCA connections on the back. They go for fairly cheap on ebay but the ones ive seen were in pretty bad shape.
The 163x is rackmountable and has a slider to control the amount of compression. 2 of them make up one rack unit. I own two of them and i really like them for general limiting. You can usually pick them up around 50 bucks a piece. I hope this helps somewhat
 
The 118 and the 119 are functionally and sonically the same. Apparently, they are constructed with the same VCA as the dbx 160VU and exhibit the same compression behaviour as that unit, but sound subtley different due to the differing input/output configuration. The 163 I believe is a different beast all together with respect to compresson behaviour and sound. The enhancer on the 118/119 was designed to be used during playback of cassette tapes; it "uncompressed" the compression you applied when copying your vinyl LP's to the cassette tape. The 119's I currently have are good sounding units - i''ve used them on vocals, drums, bass and guitars. They are very good at squashing the hell out of something or adding colour!
 
dbx 117/118/118 series

I've owned all 3 of these fine units, and they are magic.

dbx-117 is a basic unit, with big knob calibrated from infinity compression (with built-in -50dB gain limit) thru 1:1, up to 1:2 expand. The small knob is level match. The switch is for response time only (medium/slow).

dbx-119 is a more flexible unit,big and small knobs are functionally same as in 117, but the switch does something entirely different. UP runs the unit in "Threshold" mode (very fast), allowing Peak Limiting/Expanding. DOWN runs the unit in Linear Mode, at medium speed.

dbx-118 is the home stereo choice. Operation is simple, with big & small knobs and slide switch functioning same as the 119. A dbx type II NR system is on-board, and jack-wired for stringing the 118 between tape deck and home stereo. The variable COMP/EXP is routeable (by silver push switches), to place the C/E ahead or behind the tape deck. An optional silver push switch tailors the TypeII NR for those old (and impossible to find) dbx records.

117/118/119 have no power switch, but they draw only a couple of watts, so don't worry about the "Green Factor".
All three use "mono" detectors. That means that the units are intended to process both stereo channels together as a stream.

117 has no indicator light, at all.
118 has two L.E.D.'s for threshold above/below.
119 has one red L.E.D. which brightens as the threshold is driven harder. (I've seen a 119 with a calibrated scale meter on the top, but I think it was a custom mod, not production).

My personal experience: I have used balanced mics, thru x-formers, directly into 117 & 119(linear mode), set for 1.4:1 comp, and fed to tape deck. Playback is 1:1.4 exp, then EQ, and re-record to mixdown deck. (mastering deck, with 50dB S/N and dbx loop, provides a performance range window of 70dB. I never had to watch the meters, and recorded master at -6 peak. Stage Recordings Were Excellent.)
 
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Look for them under electronics on craigs list...you can steal one there...I got my old dbx160 from an estate sale for $50
 
oversight in detail dbx117/118/119

Sorry. I unintentionally slipped, on a detail.

The big knob on 117 ranges from 1.4:1 COMP thru 1:2 EXP.
The big knob on 118/119 ranges from INF COMP thru 1:2 EXP.
 
Sorry. I unintentionally slipped, on a detail.

The big knob on 117 ranges from 1.4:1 COMP thru 1:2 EXP.
The big knob on 118/119 ranges from INF COMP thru 1:2 EXP.

The knob on my 119 goes to 2.0 expansion. The manual recommends keeping it in the 1.4 zone though.
 
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