DAW & Video Editing - Potential Conflicts?

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As far as Video apps go, I've worked with Adobe Premiere and Adobe After Effects. I've seen Pinacle. None of these really blew me away. The Premiere version I used had really, really cheasy fades, but more importantly, wasn't very user friendly (to me). After effects was a little better, but didn't have the editing options of Premiere (I don't really get why they made 2 apps?). I would go with Vegas if you like it even a little. From what I understand, Pinacle is less powerfull than Premiere, so scratch that.

Ofcourse, the real way to go is an Avid system, but that's probaby way out of budget, right? ;)
 
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Halion said:
As far as Video apps go, I've worked with Adobe Premiere and Adobe After Effects. I've seen Pinacle. None of these really blew me away. The Premiere version I used had really, really cheasy fades, but more importantly, wasn't very user friendly (to me). After effects was a little better, but didn't have the editing options of Premiere (I don't really get why they made 2 apps?). I would go with Vegas if you like it even a little. From what I understand, Pinacle is less powerfull than Premiere, so scratch that.

Ofcourse, the real way to go is an Avid system, but that's probaby way out of budget, right? ;)
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a lot of the functionality of the 100k dedicated avid systems are now available at the pc level, with the mojo coprocessor it is quite responsive. However, I don't think anyone has described it as user friendly, its just that lots of people out there have had experience or learned on a avid.

premier and after affects are companion aps, meant to be used together, adobe thought premier could do most anything event photographers needed, with aftereffects for the pros. you really need both if you are going to do anything really involved. then most people need an ap to write a usuable dvd. premier pro and/or 1.5 are better. you might try one of the entry level 100 dollar aps to learn on and decide what you really need. most of the players offer one.
 
Halion said:
As far as Video apps go, I've worked with Adobe Premiere and Adobe After Effects. I've seen Pinacle. None of these really blew me away. The Premiere version I used had really, really cheasy fades, but more importantly, wasn't very user friendly (to me). After effects was a little better, but didn't have the editing options of Premiere (I don't really get why they made 2 apps?). I would go with Vegas if you like it even a little. From what I understand, Pinacle is less powerfull than Premiere, so scratch that.

Ofcourse, the real way to go is an Avid system, but that's probaby way out of budget, right? ;)
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Premiere is a NLE and After Effects is a post production/compositing tool. Those are 2 completely different things.

Adobe's products are far easier to use than Vegas or Avid.

You can see examples of my work done in Premire Elements at the following link:

http://www.chuckengels.com/PremierVideo/SergioD/
 
brzilian said:
Adobe's products are far easier to use than Vegas or Avid.
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That's entirely subjective, if not just wrong. One of Vegas' most touted advantages is its ease of use.
 
elevate said:
That's entirely subjective, if not just wrong. One of Vegas' most touted advantages is its ease of use.
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I've been doing this for a while.

Vegas' process for applying transitions or any kind of transform to a clip is back-asswards to say the least.

I spent all of a week with the trial version of Vegas and promptly returned to Premiere.
 
brzilian said:
Premiere is a NLE and After Effects is a post production/compositing tool. Those are 2 completely different things.

Adobe's products are far easier to use than Vegas or Avid.

You can see examples of my work done in Premire Elements at the following link:

http://www.chuckengels.com/PremierVideo/SergioD/
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Brzilian,
Really liked your work.

CAn you tell me what an NLE is?

GVDV
 
non linear editor, premier, vegas, edius, etc.....

gvdv said:
Brzilian,
Really liked your work.

CAn you tell me what an NLE is?

GVDV
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brzilian said:
Non Linear Editor.
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As opposed to an A/B Roll system, which is the old method. (My favorite) 2 playback decks, a edit deck, edit controllers, timebase correctors, black burst generators, timing units, huge racks. Big iron! Still the fastest way to edit! Still Hella expensive.
 
lbanks said:
Big iron! Still the fastest way to edit!
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For your sake, I hope you're kidding.

Otherwise, an entire industry would probably dissagree with you.
 
brzilian said:
For your sake, I hope you're kidding.

Otherwise, an entire industry would probably dissagree with you.
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I can edit a 60 sec. piece in less than 5min. and have it ready to go on air. It'll take that long for the computer to boot up and to create a new folder. NLE's are nice and the wave of the future, but still just tools. And for long format(1 hour or longer), if you've got the storage space, you'll be rendering for hours.
And sometimes you have to get work done and have no time for computer fun, ie, viruses, spyware and the ilk. Computers have come a long way, but they have a ways to go before they replace hardware. When I see Grass Valley's and Ross's sell for $100, maybe I'll agree, but nobody at work has suggested we retire our linear systems... and we have 5 Mac w/Final Cut Pro.
For example, I had a meeting, using two camera people, no field switcher. Meeting was 1 hour 47 minutes. I also had powerpoint slides to insert. I match audio on deck a & b. Set the edit points, start the edits, switching deck as I watched, dropping in keys on the fly. Finish the edit, came back and inserted the slides. Total edit time: 3 hour 15 min, scheduled to play the next day. I haven't seen that kind of turn around speed with NLEs.
Of course this has nothing to do with the orginal question and I don't have any idea why I'm discussing work... I sorry. :confused:
 
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