D2424 LV Timing and Milliseconds

[Fdotbone]

Sorry If this post appears twice I tried to post it earlier!
Ok so my vocal track has been through all kinds of processing devices and is now come back to the rcorder and is , lets say 8 milliseconds behind and i want to chop 8 milliseconds off the track and move the track leftwards by that amount.Assuming the start point to be to the left( I like to try and visualise these things) Now given 30 Frames a sec Midi Time Code thats one frame right? and given 1 frame is about 8.5 milliseconds!? Am I nuts or what? no don't answer the last bit.

 

[Fdotbone]

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I finally got both the JL Cooper Msc2 and the yamaha 01v96 MkII to control the fostex. The yamaha Manual states that the MMC ID should be the same on both devices this is incorrect.

 

[rossM]

I have one of these machines - They dont seem to be that popular -as yours is about the first post ive seen on these - As to your timing issue-As I read your post I assume you are tracking with the processing - I dont understand why you are tracking with delay and other such processing - the idea of multi track recording is so that you can add these things after tracking - so you can control what effects are used and and how they are used -rather than getting just a one shot at it when it is being recorded -or have I got this wrong ?

 

[Fdotbone]

Hi Ross

Haven't been on for a while.Yes i should have said it was a bit of post production that i was doing putting the vocal track through a TC helicon Voice one Pitch correction box and then recording it back into the fostex.That's where i get the 8 msecs from.I think I've cracked it.As for these machines being unpopular well you're right there but all i can say is It's a very good machine and once you get the hang of it it's very easy to use.i guess they just became out moded by all in one box machines.In the case of the d2424 you need and external mixer or you could adat it into a computer.One thing though you switch it on and it works! period.I like that feature pity not all computers can claim that.Cheers mike

 

[ausrock]

I very rarely drop into the Fostex forum any more, but back in the day, there used to be a reasonable amount of discussion regarding the "D" series recorders (try doing a search here).............I still use a D160 and I know of a few other long term members here that use "D" series. The thing is, thay are normally "rock solid" and consequently, there is not much call for discussion.

Fdot,

Having on numerous occasions, re-recorded tracks off the Fostex through my console and effects then back to the Fostex without any problems, I can only presume your problem is originating elsewhere.

 

[xstatic]

I used to have a D2424LV. It eworked great for me. Just make sure you never have a power outage or all stuff in a currently unsaved project (i.e. a live recording) will be permanently lost.

Also, I happen to have a brand new DVD-RAM backup drive that I would like to sell. It has never even been out of its plastic wrapping and/or installed

 

[Fdotbone]

Fostex works faultlessly

Hey thanks to all for the input.I just wanted to say that the problem was never one with the Fostex , I can only say i am overjoyed with the D2424LV and its quiet reliability.The problem is more an aesthithic one in that after I send a track out to my TC Helicon Voice One it comes back delayed by 8 milliseconds,or 13 in the highest quality mode! OK it's not a lot but I can hear the difference.I mean if you playback the new track with the old one in unison then you hear the doubletracking effect with great effect.Its not even a problem with the TC Helicon it's just a matter of fact that it induces 8 milliseconds and 13 in pure mode as a matter of fact.All i need to know is how does 8 milliseconds relate to the timecode on the fostex so I know how much to chop off of the track to realign it to it's correct and original position in the timeline.So to simplfy how many Frames of timecode is 8 millseconds at 24 frames a sec.Ok i think I just answered my own question....lol