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laaronx
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Guys, this has been a truly informative thread. Thanks for all the info!
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mstudio1224@aol.com
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Your welcome
Your welcome, glad my stupidity and ignorance in asking these questions steared you clear but helped you in some way.
Reach one Teach one then CUT THE SUPPORT CHAIN ha ha ha ha
(just joking)
Your welcome, glad my stupidity and ignorance in asking these questions steared you clear but helped you in some way.
Reach one Teach one then CUT THE SUPPORT CHAIN ha ha ha ha
(just joking)
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mstudio1224@aol.com
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MOBO
WATYF:
So I went out and bought a K7T266 Pro 2 (KT266A chipset based)
I cross referenced it with "tomshardware.com" and it was a good one to use. just a few specs
CPU
Support socket A (462) for AMD Athlon XP Duron Processor
Supports 8700Mhz up to 1800+Mhz proc
Chipset
VIA VT8366A chipset (552 BGA) FSB@200/266Mhz
AGP 4X and PCI advanced high performance memory controller
VIA VT8233, chipset (376 BGA)
High bandwidth V-link client controller, Integrated Faster Ethernet LPC, Integrated Hardware Sound Blaster/Direct Sound AC97 Audio
Ultra DMA 33/66/100 master mode PCI EDIE controller, ACPI
Clock Generator - 100/133MHz clocks are supported
Main Memory - 6 banks using three DDR DIMMS, max memor 3GB
2.5v DDR SDRAM DIMM
Slots ---(1) AGP (5) PCI Bus slots (1) CNR communication network riser
On-Board IDE --- I can connect up to (4) hard drives (2) are IDE RAID 0 or 1 ((AM I TO USE THE RAID, I HEARD IT'S GOOD TO USE))
(4) USB interface -- really two, the other 2 are optional
so I dont think it's to bad for $129 --- let me know if I should go back and get the ASUS A7V333 they didnt have the SOYO Dragon, but I still here they are shipped back a lot. let me know
WATYF:
So I went out and bought a K7T266 Pro 2 (KT266A chipset based)
I cross referenced it with "tomshardware.com" and it was a good one to use. just a few specs
CPU
Support socket A (462) for AMD Athlon XP Duron Processor
Supports 8700Mhz up to 1800+Mhz proc
Chipset
VIA VT8366A chipset (552 BGA) FSB@200/266Mhz
AGP 4X and PCI advanced high performance memory controller
VIA VT8233, chipset (376 BGA)
High bandwidth V-link client controller, Integrated Faster Ethernet LPC, Integrated Hardware Sound Blaster/Direct Sound AC97 Audio
Ultra DMA 33/66/100 master mode PCI EDIE controller, ACPI
Clock Generator - 100/133MHz clocks are supported
Main Memory - 6 banks using three DDR DIMMS, max memor 3GB
2.5v DDR SDRAM DIMM
Slots ---(1) AGP (5) PCI Bus slots (1) CNR communication network riser
On-Board IDE --- I can connect up to (4) hard drives (2) are IDE RAID 0 or 1 ((AM I TO USE THE RAID, I HEARD IT'S GOOD TO USE))
(4) USB interface -- really two, the other 2 are optional
so I dont think it's to bad for $129 --- let me know if I should go back and get the ASUS A7V333 they didnt have the SOYO Dragon, but I still here they are shipped back a lot. let me know
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mstudio1224@aol.com
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MOBO
WATYF:
So I went out and bought a (MSI) K7T266 Pro 2 (KT266A chipset based)
I cross referenced it with "tomshardware.com" and it was a good one to use. just a few specs
CPU
Support socket A (462) for AMD Athlon XP Duron Processor
Supports 8700Mhz up to 1800+Mhz proc
Chipset
VIA VT8366A chipset (552 BGA) FSB@200/266Mhz
AGP 4X and PCI advanced high performance memory controller
VIA VT8233, chipset (376 BGA)
High bandwidth V-link client controller, Integrated Faster Ethernet LPC, Integrated Hardware Sound Blaster/Direct Sound AC97 Audio
Ultra DMA 33/66/100 master mode PCI EDIE controller, ACPI
Clock Generator - 100/133MHz clocks are supported
Main Memory - 6 banks using three DDR DIMMS, max memor 3GB
2.5v DDR SDRAM DIMM
Slots ---(1) AGP (5) PCI Bus slots (1) CNR communication network riser
On-Board IDE --- I can connect up to (4) hard drives (2) are IDE RAID 0 or 1 ((AM I TO USE THE RAID, I HEARD IT'S GOOD TO USE))
(4) USB interface -- really two, the other 2 are optional
so I dont think it's to bad for $129 --- let me know if I should go back and get the ASUS A7V333 they didnt have the SOYO Dragon, but I still here they are shipped back a lot. let me know
WATYF:
So I went out and bought a (MSI) K7T266 Pro 2 (KT266A chipset based)
I cross referenced it with "tomshardware.com" and it was a good one to use. just a few specs
CPU
Support socket A (462) for AMD Athlon XP Duron Processor
Supports 8700Mhz up to 1800+Mhz proc
Chipset
VIA VT8366A chipset (552 BGA) FSB@200/266Mhz
AGP 4X and PCI advanced high performance memory controller
VIA VT8233, chipset (376 BGA)
High bandwidth V-link client controller, Integrated Faster Ethernet LPC, Integrated Hardware Sound Blaster/Direct Sound AC97 Audio
Ultra DMA 33/66/100 master mode PCI EDIE controller, ACPI
Clock Generator - 100/133MHz clocks are supported
Main Memory - 6 banks using three DDR DIMMS, max memor 3GB
2.5v DDR SDRAM DIMM
Slots ---(1) AGP (5) PCI Bus slots (1) CNR communication network riser
On-Board IDE --- I can connect up to (4) hard drives (2) are IDE RAID 0 or 1 ((AM I TO USE THE RAID, I HEARD IT'S GOOD TO USE))
(4) USB interface -- really two, the other 2 are optional
so I dont think it's to bad for $129 --- let me know if I should go back and get the ASUS A7V333 they didnt have the SOYO Dragon, but I still here they are shipped back a lot. let me know
WATYF
...happier than you.
The MSI isn't bad... I woulda gone with the Soyo (better speed and built-in features) but quite frankly,.. you won't notice the different. You're doin' fine with that one.
RAID can be very handy, but that's a whole new ball of wax that you gotta learn aboot. You might wanna read up on that before deciding if you wanna venture oat in that direction.
WATYF
RAID can be very handy, but that's a whole new ball of wax that you gotta learn aboot. You might wanna read up on that before deciding if you wanna venture oat in that direction.
WATYF
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mstudio1224@aol.com
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RAAAAAAIIIIIID
Well the manual specifies it's just easier to use when saving AUDIO , and if I want to partition drives its easier too.
The fact that SOYO DRAGON may be faster, I kind of felt assured with this one ((dont know why)) plus after checking with some dealers, it was noted most had been returned
(dont ask me why I have no clue)
but as long as I'm at a good start, that's fine for me, I'm looking more less for STABILITY than SPEED, if it lasts me a long time, I'm better with that. I also purchased a 400 W Power Supply for $39, now for the HD, Floppy, CDR, DVD.
I was thinking on having (1) hard disk internal, and the other one as a removable, that would do-able (wouldn't it) I could still partition them, but I'm only looking to do MUSIC so one for AUDIO (the removable) and the other OS, DATA, MIDI etc...
oh well thanks for response, I feel better, I started to take it back
Well the manual specifies it's just easier to use when saving AUDIO , and if I want to partition drives its easier too.
The fact that SOYO DRAGON may be faster, I kind of felt assured with this one ((dont know why)) plus after checking with some dealers, it was noted most had been returned
(dont ask me why I have no clue)
but as long as I'm at a good start, that's fine for me, I'm looking more less for STABILITY than SPEED, if it lasts me a long time, I'm better with that. I also purchased a 400 W Power Supply for $39, now for the HD, Floppy, CDR, DVD.
I was thinking on having (1) hard disk internal, and the other one as a removable, that would do-able (wouldn't it) I could still partition them, but I'm only looking to do MUSIC so one for AUDIO (the removable) and the other OS, DATA, MIDI etc...
oh well thanks for response, I feel better, I started to take it back
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neirbo
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Your hard drive set up looks good. I have the same one - my OS and software on a fixed drive, and my audio on a removable drive so I can swap it out.
By the way, I wouldn't bother with RAID, unless you plan on using MANY MANY tracks simultaneously. With a 7200 RPM hard drive on an IDE channel, you'll have plenty of data access speed for lots of tracks. I regularly use 10 tracks and my hard drive meter stays at well under 10%. Usually the CPU limits the sysytem long before the hard drive data access is an issue.
By the way, I wouldn't bother with RAID, unless you plan on using MANY MANY tracks simultaneously. With a 7200 RPM hard drive on an IDE channel, you'll have plenty of data access speed for lots of tracks. I regularly use 10 tracks and my hard drive meter stays at well under 10%. Usually the CPU limits the sysytem long before the hard drive data access is an issue.
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mstudio1224@aol.com
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24 track area
NEIRBO
I plan to stay in the 24 track area, what I mean by that is:
maybe 12 for music the other for vocals
right now in CUBASE I do my tracks MIDI (tops 12 tracks) then one by one I bounce to my MDR, then I turn off computer and just use my DM24 Mixer & DM24 to record vocals, (I got through HHB/TL Audio Mic Pre & Compressor into the MDR
So basically I'd like to stay in about that space, but making this DAW will condense certain thing --- I hate to accumilate stuff
I'm a space freak -- anything to consolidate I love. So you say dont use the RAID, just stay with the regular IDE
((writing this down in my notes)) thanks NEIRBO
NEIRBO
I plan to stay in the 24 track area, what I mean by that is:
maybe 12 for music the other for vocals
right now in CUBASE I do my tracks MIDI (tops 12 tracks) then one by one I bounce to my MDR, then I turn off computer and just use my DM24 Mixer & DM24 to record vocals, (I got through HHB/TL Audio Mic Pre & Compressor into the MDR
So basically I'd like to stay in about that space, but making this DAW will condense certain thing --- I hate to accumilate stuff
I'm a space freak -- anything to consolidate I love. So you say dont use the RAID, just stay with the regular IDE
((writing this down in my notes)) thanks NEIRBO
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mstudio1224@aol.com
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NEIRBO
which do you have: INTERNAL HD -- 40, 60, 80 GB ?
EXTERNAL HD --- 40,60,80 GB ?
just trying to figure which ones to buy for the AUDIO and the other for O.S., DATA stuff you know...
which do you have: INTERNAL HD -- 40, 60, 80 GB ?
EXTERNAL HD --- 40,60,80 GB ?
just trying to figure which ones to buy for the AUDIO and the other for O.S., DATA stuff you know...
Rochey
New member
Okay, look, i've been watching this thread for a while, and I don't wanna be mean, but I am genuinly SCARED.
Have you built a PC before? OR are you jumping into the DAW thing without any experience whatsoever?
Things like type of Hdisk to use etc should have been conisdered before you even bought the mobo....
But, I gotta respect your guts on this one...
good luck
Have you built a PC before? OR are you jumping into the DAW thing without any experience whatsoever?
Things like type of Hdisk to use etc should have been conisdered before you even bought the mobo....
But, I gotta respect your guts on this one...
good luck
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mstudio1224@aol.com
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dont be scared....
Rochey
No need to be afraid, I was basically asking a persons opinion
I know which & what harddrives to get 40Gb for Data, 60 WESTERN DIGITAL for audio, I was just merely asking to see what was the consensus of what people use, some do use 80 for AUDIO.
I just dont care to ANALLY explain E-V-ERY THING, I'm merely asking questions to ween out certain things I might have heard that someone may have recommended NOT to, with this I ask others question to cross reference and make my own assumption.
I am knowledgable of computers, putting one together NO I have not, but took them apart and re-assemble the already existing ones I have with new specs YES, I've changed out drives, chips, eproms, debugged etc... so in some since YES I know what I'm doing, but there is no harm in ASKING QUESTIONS.
I basically want my system SOLID, I thought about purchasing a CARILLON system, but logically thought I could build it myself, besides I have HALF of what they were asking for $4899, I got that cut by 3995.00 (in the hardware they had advertised with
the computer) so I'm taking it upon myself to SOLIDIFY my DAW's future, making me able to upgrade at anytime.
Thank you for your concern, it's appreciated, some people are afraid to put themselves in the forefront for fear of making themselves seem STUPID, but a wise man asks questions, and dumb man makes comments. ((smile))
that was'nt directed toward you, just an analogy ---
Rochey
No need to be afraid, I was basically asking a persons opinion
I know which & what harddrives to get 40Gb for Data, 60 WESTERN DIGITAL for audio, I was just merely asking to see what was the consensus of what people use, some do use 80 for AUDIO.
I just dont care to ANALLY explain E-V-ERY THING, I'm merely asking questions to ween out certain things I might have heard that someone may have recommended NOT to, with this I ask others question to cross reference and make my own assumption.
I am knowledgable of computers, putting one together NO I have not, but took them apart and re-assemble the already existing ones I have with new specs YES, I've changed out drives, chips, eproms, debugged etc... so in some since YES I know what I'm doing, but there is no harm in ASKING QUESTIONS.
I basically want my system SOLID, I thought about purchasing a CARILLON system, but logically thought I could build it myself, besides I have HALF of what they were asking for $4899, I got that cut by 3995.00 (in the hardware they had advertised with
the computer) so I'm taking it upon myself to SOLIDIFY my DAW's future, making me able to upgrade at anytime.
Thank you for your concern, it's appreciated, some people are afraid to put themselves in the forefront for fear of making themselves seem STUPID, but a wise man asks questions, and dumb man makes comments. ((smile))
that was'nt directed toward you, just an analogy ---
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neirbo
New member
Re: dont be scared....
Umm, your audio IS your data.
With harddrives, bigger is definitely better. But, you end up paying a lot more for a little more storage once you get near the biggest available. So, it really depends on how much you want to spend.
For your primary hard drive (that holds the OS, programs, porn downloads etc.) you can get a 5400 RPM drive that is big enough to hold all this stuff. I have a 10 gig that is more than enough for me. But since drives are super cheap now you may decide that a 20 or 30 gig is worth the extra few bucks.
For your other drive, the one that will hold your audio data, you want a 7200 RPM drive, as big as you want. If I were getting a new audio drive today, I'd probably get a 60 or 80 gig. But again, this is really a personal economic consideration.
The only "rule" is to get a 7200 RPM audio drive. Beyond that, it is up to you and your wallet.
[email]mstudio1224@aol.com[/email] said:
Umm, your audio IS your data.
With harddrives, bigger is definitely better. But, you end up paying a lot more for a little more storage once you get near the biggest available. So, it really depends on how much you want to spend.
For your primary hard drive (that holds the OS, programs, porn downloads etc.) you can get a 5400 RPM drive that is big enough to hold all this stuff. I have a 10 gig that is more than enough for me. But since drives are super cheap now you may decide that a 20 or 30 gig is worth the extra few bucks.
For your other drive, the one that will hold your audio data, you want a 7200 RPM drive, as big as you want. If I were getting a new audio drive today, I'd probably get a 60 or 80 gig. But again, this is really a personal economic consideration.
The only "rule" is to get a 7200 RPM audio drive. Beyond that, it is up to you and your wallet.
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mstudio1224@aol.com
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Neirbo
"Your audio IS your data" yeah, you know what I meant (smile)
"Your audio IS your data" yeah, you know what I meant (smile)
Rochey
New member
my apologies
Heya mstudio...
My apologies, i didn't want to come accross a condescending sOAB...
What I was trying to get accross is that it's difficult enough to build your first PC. Nevermind a DAW.
Although I gotta respect your courage, don't expect to match a carriliion machine on your first shot into the DAW domain
Although you may get close!
good luck buddy.
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Heya mstudio...
My apologies, i didn't want to come accross a condescending sOAB...
What I was trying to get accross is that it's difficult enough to build your first PC. Nevermind a DAW.
Although I gotta respect your courage, don't expect to match a carriliion machine on your first shot into the DAW domain
Although you may get close!
good luck buddy.
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neirbo
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[email]mstudio1224@aol.com[/email] said:
I figured it was just a momentary brain lock, but just wanted to make sure
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mstudio1224@aol.com
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Rochey
Rochey
You were not condescending at all, I just figured hey CARILLON is asking $4600 for a system, if I have half of the gear already I could buy there barebone system, then again I thought why spend that money, when they will probably void my warranty by opening it up to ADD my gear. so I said OH WELL
this way seems to be as good. I dont intend for it to be AS GREAT as a CARILLON SYSTEM , but It'll be just as SOLID
(plus I can upgrade later if need be)
those were the attributes of me building my own
everything has it's consequences, and I like to test my boundaries
I feel confident, I'm focused that I'll succeed --- but if I dont ???
You guys will never know (LAUGHING) I'll keep ya posted
NEIRBO
I had one of those 7/11 BIG BLUE GULPS ---
(brainfreeze) WHOOAOAOOOOAAOOOA chug chug OOAHHHHHHH
Rochey
You were not condescending at all, I just figured hey CARILLON is asking $4600 for a system, if I have half of the gear already I could buy there barebone system, then again I thought why spend that money, when they will probably void my warranty by opening it up to ADD my gear. so I said OH WELL
this way seems to be as good. I dont intend for it to be AS GREAT as a CARILLON SYSTEM , but It'll be just as SOLID
(plus I can upgrade later if need be)
those were the attributes of me building my own
everything has it's consequences, and I like to test my boundaries
I feel confident, I'm focused that I'll succeed --- but if I dont ???
You guys will never know (LAUGHING) I'll keep ya posted
NEIRBO
I had one of those 7/11 BIG BLUE GULPS ---
(brainfreeze) WHOOAOAOOOOAAOOOA chug chug OOAHHHHHHH
beezelbubba
Shitty Buddhist
My advice to you is that if you aren't absolutely certain of what you're doing,pay someone else to do it.I toasted my new motherboard last week,thinking I could do it myself!I bought another one,and this time I'm having someone else do it.
I successfully built my first DAW,but just by luck,I suppose!I'm no more than a layman at this.When in doubt,leave it to someone who's done it many times!It sucks to throw your money away!
I successfully built my first DAW,but just by luck,I suppose!I'm no more than a layman at this.When in doubt,leave it to someone who's done it many times!It sucks to throw your money away!
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mstudio1224@aol.com
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More Questions
I'll be fine BEEZLEBUBBA, plus I'm not in doubt - that's why I ask questions
MORE QUESTIONS:
If I already have an external CD Recorder, what are the advantages to having an internal in my D.A.W ?
Plus a DVD drive can play a recorded CD & read a CD (if I needed to upload a PROGRAM of sort)
So my DAW would consist of DVD drive, floppy, Swapple HD drive
and one internal HD.
I'll be fine BEEZLEBUBBA, plus I'm not in doubt - that's why I ask questions
MORE QUESTIONS:
If I already have an external CD Recorder, what are the advantages to having an internal in my D.A.W ?
Plus a DVD drive can play a recorded CD & read a CD (if I needed to upload a PROGRAM of sort)
So my DAW would consist of DVD drive, floppy, Swapple HD drive
and one internal HD.
drstawl
Banned
>If I already have an external CD Recorder, what are the advantages to having an internal in my D.A.W
Absolutely essential to create data archives from the stuff on your HD you want to save. Saving as data allows you to export 24/96 tracks onto ordinary CDR media. Even if a standalone accepts 24/96 audio- it burns it as 16/44.1.
Don't forget the burner!
Sounds like the DVD-ROM drive is more of an extra when discussing the essential components of a DAW.
Absolutely essential to create data archives from the stuff on your HD you want to save. Saving as data allows you to export 24/96 tracks onto ordinary CDR media. Even if a standalone accepts 24/96 audio- it burns it as 16/44.1.
Don't forget the burner!
Sounds like the DVD-ROM drive is more of an extra when discussing the essential components of a DAW.
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mstudio1224@aol.com
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Cool....drstawl
drstawl:
Thanks for explaining that, now I will change things around, I will get a CD-R instead of the DVD (the DVD was really a purk, I just thought it was a jump toward the future of DATA backup)
Question: TO ANYONE WHO KNOWS
I have a MOTU 2408 MKII: now with me building a D.A.W. with Windows XP my 2408 MKII doesnt have (DRIVERS) for XP, I've had mine for 4 years +, so I ask, is it possible to download the drivers from MOTU and in what order should I load into my new D.A.W = the CD, then the update ?
or I can go with a whole new unit like a 001 because it's all in 1, but I already have the 2408 MKII, so that would be nuts, plus I'm all hooked up to my DM24 via Adat Optical.
Also, I have Cubase VST 3.7, had it for about 5 years, I think the highest is goes is Windows NT 4.0 DRIVERS , but I intend on getting CUBASE SX , (so it doesnt matter then duuuggghhh).
forgive me I'm rambling
drstawl:
Thanks for explaining that, now I will change things around, I will get a CD-R instead of the DVD (the DVD was really a purk, I just thought it was a jump toward the future of DATA backup)
Question: TO ANYONE WHO KNOWS
I have a MOTU 2408 MKII: now with me building a D.A.W. with Windows XP my 2408 MKII doesnt have (DRIVERS) for XP, I've had mine for 4 years +, so I ask, is it possible to download the drivers from MOTU and in what order should I load into my new D.A.W = the CD, then the update ?
or I can go with a whole new unit like a 001 because it's all in 1, but I already have the 2408 MKII, so that would be nuts, plus I'm all hooked up to my DM24 via Adat Optical.
Also, I have Cubase VST 3.7, had it for about 5 years, I think the highest is goes is Windows NT 4.0 DRIVERS , but I intend on getting CUBASE SX , (so it doesnt matter then duuuggghhh).
forgive me I'm rambling