Cured - strange clicking when recording

[DM60]

It was/is a stupid idea to use cable as part of the copy protection - and it mostly hurts the users instead of protecting the copyright -

You do know, that is why Microsoft won't let folks upgrade to 11 on older machines? Something to do with DRM. The people who want to really pirate, will pirate. But these big companies don't mind picking our pockets. Better stop now.

 

[CoolCat]

I once tried a very long USB cable with my 16x08 interface but it became a bit glitchy. I think it was about 12 or 15 ft. With a 3 ft cable, things are just fine. Oddly, the long cable worked just fine when I was transferring tracks from my AW1600. I'm not sure what the difference is between the USB in the Yamaha vs the Tascam, but it was apparent.

There are differences in the various cables. USB 3 cables have more wires, and are designed to reject interference, which lets them handle the higher data rates error free. With USB 4 hitting 40 to 80GBPS, you'll need a more high spec cable to take full advantage of that capability.

I was just looking at my old USB 1 cable and the new Laptops I have are apparently USB 4, you mentioned.
The old old interfaces, have the weird rectangular round type USB 1 that then go to the flat- USB 2.
I noticed this old old USB1 cable has a choke on the outside of the cable but none of the USB 4's do.

off topic but was thinking I could have a nice "stereo system" using one of these old interfaces to run my laptop into it, if a USB 4 laptop can talk to a USB 1 interface?

 

[TalismanRich]

AFAIK, you can run a USB 1 device with USB4. The spec says it's supposed to be backwards compatible. Of course you'll only get USB1 speed, so a limit of about 10MBPS. There are several different connectors, The original ones were type A and type B. Then they came up with the micro and mini connectors, and SuperSpeed connectors. USB-C is the same connector as T-bolt, but the signals between USB-C and T-bolt are different. Things finally converged with USB4 which is based on Thunderbolt 3.

Hint: you can identify the USB rating by looking at the connector. USB 1 connectors were white plastic inside the connector. USB 2 went to a black plastic and blue means USB 3. If you have multiple USB type A ports, look at the color! With an external drive, use the blue connector to get the higher speed.

 

[ecc83]

I was just looking at my old USB 1 cable and the new Laptops I have are apparently USB 4, you mentioned.
The old old interfaces, have the weird rectangular round type USB 1 that then go to the flat- USB 2.
I noticed this old old USB1 cable has a choke on the outside of the cable but none of the USB 4's do.

off topic but was thinking I could have a nice "stereo system" using one of these old interfaces to run my laptop into it, if a USB 4 laptop can talk to a USB 1 interface?

It is a much vaunted claim about USB that it is always "backwards compatible". I certainly have never had any trouble with 1.1, 2.0 or 3.0 but that is a high as I have got at the moment. I suspect there will have to be a point when USB xX cannot run 1.1 gear?

The long cable that worked with the multitracker did so I would aver because the source was 1.1 and I am betting the files were 16 bit 44.1 or 48kHz? My old Fast track Pro could deliver two audio tracks plus 2 on S/PDIF and MIDI but only at 16bits. 24 bit operation meant stopping one pair of ins or outs.

Hey Rich! What then does a Red type A mean?

Dave.

 

[TalismanRich]

Red and yellow indicate USB 3.2 Gen 2 which is higher speed (SS 10) than 3.1, and supplies more power. I think the difference is whether it supplies power all the time or just with the computer is on (for things like charging your cell phone.) I've only seen a couple of computer with red ports. Most converted to USB-C ports with a SS SS-5 or SS-10 designation above the connector.

Frankly, I'm surprised by the slow adoption of USB4. It was approved some 6 years ago, and still you buy a new computer and it is only USB 3.2 with a C connector. It's not like you need the special licensing that was needed for Thunderbolt.

This is a currently available machine from HP. 14th Gen I5, DDR5 memory and NVME SSD. Only one SS-10 port, 3 SS-5 ports and 4 USB 2.0 ports! USB 2 is some 20+ yrs old! We might as well put on a nice RS232 port for our modems and a parallel port for our dot matrix printers!

 

[CoolCat]

thats the one, USB B , with white plastic for Line6 UX8 interface...I have like 3 of them. (maybe the best headphone amp of any Ive had in an interface).
my laptops are definitely the USB C and phone etc.
this thread got me reading USB 4. supposedly they wont be using .1 or ,2etc anymore to avoid confusion.

I didn't know that about the colors. thanks.

Always good to have the right cables and well made ones.

add: Ill be darned that Line 6 is USB2 and its black female (and labeled USB 2.0), but the cables I had were USB1 white, interesting.
Found some black old round, USB B- 2 cables.

thanks!