Cubase vs. Adobe Audition

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so besides the midi capability of cubase, what are the main differences in the digital recording/editing aspect of it? My friend informed me that if you arnt going to use midi then adobe audition is better, is this statement accurate? help is greatly appreciated thanks
 
I don't see how Adobe Audition could be better whether you use Midi or not.
 
espplayer.
audition is good for audio. but lacking midi features last time i looked.
i worked with cool edit for quite a time. and for audio its very very good.
although some of the effects i was not keen on for my own personal taste.
if you want a nice product that does both audio and midi with audio fx/editing built in so you dont have to buy plug in effects look at powertracks that i use.
now - some people will come along who use cubase or competing products will tell you i'm lying. because they dont like me posting about this product.
so - what i suggest is you assume i'm a complete lier and then talk to very experienced users on the pgmusic.com powertracks forum who have used every single music software out there. and ask them why they like powertracks. this way - you will see that i'm not lying to you.
or just try the demo espplayer.
also i suggest you try band in a box sometime which will save you a lot of time in laying music tracks down. once again talk to users who use it day in and out.
cubase is a very good product but what i'm suggesting will give you a lot of interesting options at a low price. in fact if you scan the biab user groups and forum you will see many cubase users use band in a box.
as do many users of other music software.
all the best.
 
I used to use Cool Edit (before becoming Adobe Audition) and found it a little more intuitive than Cubase, strictly for audio purposes. A lot of your decision will be based on your own personal preferences. Both products will allow you to do high quality audio production. I'm currently running Cubase VST 5.0 on Mac and am very pleased with it.

One other thing. Just because you aren't using MIDI now doesn't mean you won't need it down the road. I started out strictly audio and quickly realized that drum loops weren't cutting it for me. I borrowed a friend's drum machine and starting using it as a MIDI controller. It opened up a whole wealth of options that would've been unavailable to me had I stayed with Cool Edit. I'd get a DAW that includes MIDI - trust me, you'll be glad you did.
 
I haven't used Cool Edit for some time now. It is just fine for audio in the sense that it is simple and basic. However, it lacked MANY of the features of a truly professional multitrack sequencer. I must say though, that because I have been a Cubase user for a few years now, I have not given Audition any thought. Any of the newer Cubase programs (SE, SL and SX) are MUCH different than the older VST versions. They offer many more features, a better GUI, and a much better audio engine. I reccomend to most every person who is interested in Cubase to look at the comparison charts between the three different versions of Cubase. SE is only $100 and it leaves an upgrade path to both SL and SX. What I especially love is that upgrading costs the same (and sometimes less) than just buying the next step up outright instead of the cheaper one first. Basically, upgrading for SE to SL only costs $200. Thats $300 total to buy SE and then upgrade to SL. Buying SL from the get go is also only $300. This way you can start smaller and decide for yourself by using the apllication in its full version in your own environment.

Manning, I have never said that you were "lying" about anything. It's just that every other post is about Powertracks, and now you can add BIB to that as well. Personally, I understand that if you like those two applications the best, of course they are what you would reccomend. However, often times those recommendations really come out of nowhere. In the end, I think that this constant "advertising" of them actually is making people not want to take you or the programs you reccomend seriously. Just my 2 cents.
 
I've been using Adobe Audition and have become quite familiar with it. That said, my new Alesis Mixer came with some Cubase software. I'm not sure how complete of a version it is. I haven't installed it yet because I'm not sure i want to mess with the complications of learning yet another piece of software.

Oh, and I'm not using midi...
 
for a basic plain jane multitracker and a good audio editor, cool edit/audition is good. but it has no asio driver support for low latency sound cards. although, you probably don't need a low latency sound card for it anyway. i used it alot when i was running onboard 16 bit sound with no problems.
 
xstatic.
you sound like a reasonable person.
so i'll respond.
you mention what you use. ive seen your posts.
other people mention what they use.
and i dont respond with nasty comments.
see what i mean ?
heres an example - as your reasonable...
ive posted on here many times my respect for rane mic pre's.
not once has someone responded badly. with spam spam spam
yet when it comes to software - suddenly all hell breaks loose which leads me to suspect there are people on here possibly working for music software vendors or maybe with an ax to grind. but i really dont know. maybe whats needed is everyone on here who purports to be a user like myself or yourself should sign some affidavit that they dont have any commercial interests. i would happily sign such.
i'm a retired computer engineer. !
all the best xstatic.
 
I think that you ahve posted MUCH more about Powertracks than the Rane preamp. I really do bear no animosity towards anyone. I just felt like BIAB was a whole differnt product built around a whole different work style than what the original poster was interested in. I certainly don't work for any software or hardware manufacturers. I have been a Steinberg user for three years now and have had great experiences with their software. Thats why I reccomend them. Also, I check the Cubase user forum and not the other specific software forums here. I always quantify my statements with my own experience and always try and make it clear that it is my opinion and that I am a happy user so am somewhat biased. I do however occasionally reccomend different software because sometimes it seems to me like it may fit a different user better than what I prefer. Personally, even if Powertracks was the shit, I would still not use it. I have a studio to run and whether I like it or not, I still have to keep clients happy. I still constantly fight the whole "Pro Tools" thing from clients that really have no idea exactly what "Pro Tools" actually is or what it actually does.

I tell you this honestly Manning, I bear no ill will towards you no matter how much I may or may not agree with your opinions.
 
xstatic said:
I haven't used Cool Edit for some time now. It is just fine for audio in the sense that it is simple and basic. However, it lacked MANY of the features of a truly professional multitrack sequencer. I must say though, that because I have been a Cubase user for a few years now, I have not given Audition any thought. Any of the newer Cubase programs (SE, SL and SX) are MUCH different than the older VST versions. They offer many more features, a better GUI, and a much better audio engine. I reccomend to most every person who is interested in Cubase to look at the comparison charts between the three different versions of Cubase. SE is only $100 and it leaves an upgrade path to both SL and SX. What I especially love is that upgrading costs the same (and sometimes less) than just buying the next step up outright instead of the cheaper one first. Basically, upgrading for SE to SL only costs $200. Thats $300 total to buy SE and then upgrade to SL. Buying SL from the get go is also only $300. This way you can start smaller and decide for yourself by using the apllication in its full version in your own environment.

Manning, I have never said that you were "lying" about anything. It's just that every other post is about Powertracks, and now you can add BIB to that as well. Personally, I understand that if you like those two applications the best, of course they are what you would reccomend. However, often times those recommendations really come out of nowhere. In the end, I think that this constant "advertising" of them actually is making people not want to take you or the programs you reccomend seriously. Just my 2 cents.
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What kind of features was it lacking other than midi?
 
Realtime processing, Extensive automation, VST support, ASIO support. There are a huge list of major differences. However, like I said, it has been a while since I have used Cool Edit. It just wasn't setup very well for me and lacked features. @ great reasons for me to not pursue Cool Edit.
 
Adobe Audition isn''t bad software, but it's not even in the same league as Cubase.
 
what kind of extensive automation does cubase have?
 
What can't you automate in Cubase? The list of things you can not automate is far smaller than the list that you can:D
 
Ive never used Cubase but many of the things (Realtime processing, Extensive automation, VST support,) that were not present in CEP have been added into Audition as of version 1.5 .
 
Thats good to know. I tried to make sure that my posts mentioned Cool Edit since the last times that I used the program, it had not yet become Adobe Audition.
 
xstatic said:
What can't you automate in Cubase? The list of things you can not automate is far smaller than the list that you can:D
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I'm just wondering because Audition has some automation but i've never used cubase so I wouldn't know. The thing with audition that I don't like is that you can control the effect mix with an effect envelope but it alters all effects on the track equally. It would be cool to have a different envelope for each effect separately. This is the main thing I don't like about Audition.
 
Cubase SX offers more automation than you probably knew existed. In fact, sometimes I miss having less options. I almost wonder if having too many options may sometimes hinder my ability to just let things happen. But I just can't stop:D
 
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