Cubase Sx vs Sonar 3

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8 Inserts a track pisses me off for the simple reason that

Why impose LIMITS?

At more than 8 inserts a good system does what? Why would a dual processor system choke?

I know why a P4 would choke unless you have a denormalizer plug in which would have to occupy a plug in slot in cubase so 1 out of 7 down already!

My XP 2700 handles its loads quite well...but there are times when i might just need an extra few slots to squeeze things into...what about the use of automation on a mix? you might only use some of your inserts at certain times...but you must not be into that sort of thing... to each his own..but i want something that gives me the best expansion possible....there may come a time where some Pro engineer gives his secrets away and guess what he uses more than 8 resident fx on a track...damn! Now SX users deserve more for their money??

No you deserve it now man....for 700 bucks theres no way in hell that they couldnt have implemented that feature for the people that have been dedicated to Cubase for 10 plus years....i dont see their logic man... you'll have to explain that one to me...

Anyways..

You spend your money how you like..
I also happen to be enrolled in university again...so i get a nice student discount on Sonar 3...im only gonna drop 250 to get Studio Edition...which in my opinion is the friggin cats meow compared to SLs mixing features...like i said...Cubase is the still one of THE best sequencers ive ever seen for making your beats up and the like...but mixing in Sonar just makes so much more sense....especially since we all know that the audio per se is where we suffer the most with our cpus...including the rendering...This is one definate reason why i want Sonar in a dual CPU setup....Also even if you go the route of a render farm for audio...you still get better results from Sonar...why? Cuz with a farm system you'll have tons more cpu to burn but you dont really take advantage of say 6 ghz of available cpu in a Host like Cubase SX...yes VSTis do eat up some cpu but its not them that im worried about..I want to achieve that 30 second mixdown that Pro Tools guy in my other poll posted... so far the only way i can get that result is to disable all my fx...so i already know i need to get a dual cpu setup....

Peace
Illumination
 
Well I have never used Sonar, I am going buy what my friends say who have used it have said, the impression I get is Cubase and Logic lead the race in home set ups and Sonar does not really do enough to justify changing.

also Cubase looks better ;)
 
Thankyou!!!

Oh my friggin God!! What a bargain!!!

Thank you so MUCH!!!

If you dont work at this store you need to YOU DA MAN!!
Im calling purchasing right now!!!!!!!
Peace
Illumination
CEO, Founder Mt. Olympus Records
 
And of course remember: you can't use academic software to produce commercial recordings. This will be in the license agreement for most academic software.
 
Flight 16 said:
the impression I get is Cubase and Logic lead the race in home set ups.
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Nope...
;)

Flight 16 said:
also Cubase looks better ;)
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Nope...
;)

I would say today (after Sonar 3) it's so close a draw that it's really down to personal preferences. There isn't any major flaws or omissions in either app. And I think it will be a close race in the future also...

There's "kind of" a comparision in this article.

http://www.tweakheadz.com/review_of_Sonar_3.htm
 
Ok but from what i understand these aren't special versions of the program they're just academically "priced." I know there are academic "versions" of Microsoft products...but come on even then its pretty hard to tell at the final stage when you get a hard copy of a cd to expect the guy who made it to tell you whether or not the software was the academic version. Please correct me if im wrong about this...im not saying that there are no license agreements with those clauses..but my dad is a college professor and he bought an academically priced version of XP Pro...and theres no clause in any of the agreements that you read where it says this is an "academic" version of windows...as far as i know i thought dude was directing me to a site where you get a DISCOUNT if you're in school or you're a faculty member of a teaching instituion..i happen to be both :) ..

Please clarify...maybe once you get involved with commercial business the rules change but i never saw anything in my previous agreements from cubase about it being the "commercial free" version haha thats a joke...well basically i mean it didnt say anything about it being cool for me to record music commercially with the software.....maybe there is an academic version of cubase or sonar but i have yet to see it.

Peace
Illumination
 
I own an "academic" version of Cubase and the only thing different in it is there was an "academic software" sticker on the box, everything else is the same as the public version.

Regarding being able to produce commercial music with academic software, I have never heard of such a thing, nor seen it in the liscence agreement which I ended up going over pretty thoroughly one day when a Kinko's nazi was refusing to print my manual for me unless I had a signed release from Steinberg...like I have the year that would take to wait :rolleyes:

Also, I would find it extremely suprising to hear of such a thing because oftentimes the academic offers extend to theological instituions, and there are many churches who record both sermons, and music specials and offer them for sale to their members. In addition, it would not be unheard of for a music instituion to also record it's members in concert, or in studio and offer the recordings up for sale as fundraisers.

Warble, could you point me to where in the liscence agreement it backs up your assertion?
 
Yes, it is the same version as the general retail version. For Cubase, I didn't see anything in the license agreement regarding non-commercial use (most likely because the same agreement is included with both versions). Guess I shoulda checked before spouting off.

I used to own the academic version of Macromedia's Dreamweaver, and that had restrictions on use. I guess I lump in all academic software into one category: using it to learn the software and not make money created by using it. The principle is that if I'm making money, why not buy the standard version. At least when I register it with the company, it's a normal serial number and not an academic one. This would help for future upgrades, etc.

Warren
 
Flight 16 said:
I love using Cubase...I would like to see more Studios with Nuendo or Cubase though, as then you know, should you have some shithot tack ..you could take it into a Studio and take it to another level...like Pro Tools users can.
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You can easily do this. In Cubase SX 2, Nuendo 2 and even Sonar 2.0 or higher, just save your files as OMF files. Then you can bring your music files on CD's into any high end studio that's set up with a Pro Tools rig and then your music files can be easily brought up in the system and tweaked to your hearts desire with all that luscious high end hardware.

Some guys will do this just to have their tracks fattened and warmed up by being run through one of those lovely 2 inch tape machines and then processed through some of that serious hardware.
 
2legged said:
You can easily do this. In Cubase SX 2, Nuendo 2 and even Sonar 2.0 or higher, just save your files as OMF files. Then you can bring your music files on CD's into any high end studio that's set up with a Pro Tools rig and then your music files can be easily brought up in the system and tweaked to your hearts desire with all that luscious high end hardware.

Some guys will do this just to have their tracks fattened and warmed up by being run through one of those lovely 2 inch tape machines and then processed through some of that serious hardware.
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sounds very cool, when i get Sx i guess i can do this...im on SL at the momet
 
Frantz said:
Hi there,

I ask the same question in the Cakewalk forum......

Very sorry for such a basic question but I'm just starting with recording on PC.
I'd like to know which you think is best between those 2 software ? and in a few words why ?
Or let me know if you already spoke about that or if I'm in the wrong place of the forum.

Thanks in advance

Frantz
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you also might like to know , Cubase SX3 is about to come out ;)
 
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