Cubase 5 Mixing Help

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what advice would you guys give then for instrumental mp3 tracks. i've tried applying eq/compression muting the track and bringing the instrumental down but still struggling..
 
Can you post a sample of the raw vocal recording please?
Then we can see if the vocal was recorded properly first, before we start thinking about Mixing them.

G
 
Of course. whats the best way to upload them as some people said they dont want to download the files etc?
 
Okay well i recorded numerous channels. 2 Main vocals 2 right pan 2 left pan and 1 adlib this is the original recording saved to mp3 below
zSHARE - vocals.mp3

any hints on what you think could help..as i dont have the 'mixing' and 'mastering' ear yet it seems. Weirdly I was playing around and I actually found with PSP Master Q and some EQ tweaks..then putting the instrumental on a vst 'surround sound'..it made it sound mixed in..but i found the vocals varied in audio volume through...
 
I'm not going through that zshare bullshit again. No offence but it's ridiculous.

Get a soundcloud account. It's very very handy. I think the player shows up right in your post.

Anyway, without listening, maybe the fact that you're recording 7 vocal tracks is the problem.

I'm not saying no one ever does that, but if somethings wrong with your process you've just multiplied it by 7.

If your mic technique sucks, or your room sounds bad, then it just got seven times worse.
 
Steenamaroo said:
I'm not going through that zshare bullshit again. No offence but it's ridiculous.

Get a soundcloud account. It's very very handy. I think the player shows up right in your post.

Anyway, without listening, maybe the fact that you're recording 7 vocal tracks is the problem.

I'm not saying no one ever does that, but if somethings wrong with your process you've just multiplied it by 7.

If your mic technique sucks, or your room sounds bad, then it just got seven times worse.
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If you have windows media player you can stream the audio.

As for the recording, this does not sound like the original recordings, there is a vocoder or auto-tune on one of the vocals!

The recordings sound fine, so the problem is with your EQ. Work on your EQ using much less EQ.

G
 
Hi Yeah sorry I just realised I left the T Pain effect on my voice. Apologies it's only on the adlibs.
Okay..yeah I'm trying to get the eq right but im struggling..can you give me any advice for what a average eq for a rap vocal is or by the sound of mine what you think would suit it.
I tried applying these settings - Five Frequency Areas When EQ'ing the Vocal
From this article after numerous google searches but it says push to 5Khz but when i click e in mixer the minimum it'll let me drop it is 20?
 
MasterRS said:
From this article after numerous google searches but it says push to 5Khz but when i click e in mixer the minimum it'll let me drop it is 20?
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If 20 is the lowest you can adjust, then you're talking about hz (read, Hertz).

5 Khz is five thousand Hertz.
If I've misunderstood you I apologise, but if this IS the mistake you're making then we're back to square one.
You really really really need to go and read some absolute noobs guides.
How does an eq work, how does a compressor work etc.

Even at that, the numbers shouldn't really be the focus when you're learning, IMO.

Take a point on your vocal eq, make it a reasonably narrow q (not a very wide notch).
Play the vocals, push the notch up to like 10db (or down -10db) and move it left and right slowly.
This is extreme JUST so you can hear the differences.

Hopefully doing this will let you hear what helps and what doesn't.

When you find a spot that sounds good emphasised or cut, then reduce the amount until it sounds natural.

Make sure you've only one vocal track on the go. If you have seven playing and you try to eq one of them it's probably going to be a complete nightmare.

Usually I eq in context, but there's a limit. Sometime's you just have to solo in and listen carefully.....Especially if you're just starting to learn.
 
ahh i see! thanks yeah i'll do that. Can I ask what compression utility in Cubase do you recommend
 
MasterRS said:
ahh i see! thanks yeah i'll do that. Can I ask what compression utility in Cubase do you recommend
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Nope, you can't! :p

Just kidding, I don't use cubase so I can't really help.
Same rule applies though. Open one, play with it at its extremes to see what it does, then decide if you like it or not.

Rap may well be different but I just tracked vocals for three songs and i'm not using any compressor.
Between good vocal technique, mild eq, and volume automation, it's fine the way it is.
If you're using a compressor to control the volume of a track my advice would be to just not use one.

Out of interest master, what's your goal?
Do you wanna learn to be an engineer in the long term or just get some good tracks done?


If it's the latter perhaps you could really focus on good tracking and pair up with someone who could mix for you?

Just an idea.
 
MasterRS said:
whats a good thing i can do if a eqs too loud?
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Steenamaroo said:
Dude, I don't even know what that means.
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Hehe...Dude, I think it's time you stopped asking questions and started just learning by playing around, making bad mixes, trying again, making better mixes, etc.....Pretty much like everything else in life. You're in a rush to run and you haven't even learned to walk yet. Like I said earlier in this thread, believe it or not some things take practice and lots of it. You're not going to get good at it in a week or even a year., but that's life.

At this rate, you're not going to ever get a good mix because you expect everything to be solved for you on an internet forum, and you're expecting it to happen right away. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you will have to actually do some work to get anything done in life. I hate to sound like your Grandfather because I'm barely old enough to be your father, but you're going about it all wrong and you don't seem to be taking any advice anyway, just asking more questions.

All this shit we're doing takes a LONG TIME to learn. You're no exception.
 
MasterRS said:
whats a good thing i can do if a eqs too loud?
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Steenamaroo said:
Dude, I don't even know what that means.
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Man, this has been a tough school. You have to credit Master RS for their brass neck though. I believe the dude truly wants to learn and is perhaps discovering that the ease with which a person can get their hands on recording gear doesn't, in all honesty, mean that "anyone can do this"..........
 
How are things going with your vocal mixing these days?
 
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