Creating a buzz

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Another thing to consider is what you consider to be "successful".

I played my share of gigs in the 80s. One in particular was for a crowd of 3000+ for a charity gig on Vancouver. To be honest I never felt like that was my real high point. For me, playing in a small intimate club to 20-50 people just feels more successful to me. Playing to a faceless crowd felt almost hollow and empty. Nothing "personal" about it at all.

Then again if you want to look at success as a paycheck, then consider this: A friend of mine "Tim" used to play every Friday and Saturday evening on Ouellette Ave. during the summer months. Some people like to mock and laugh ot street performers, but he would drag down between $500.00 and $700.00 for two days work. I had to work for 6 days in a factory to bring home the same... Much of his time spent sitting there was actually talking to people rather than playing. And since he has such an excellent "outgoing" personallity people were happy to toss coin and bills in his case. Remember, on a busy city street upwords of 2000-5000 people (depending on your city) can pass you by in less than 3hrs. even if it averages out to $0.10 per person, that's $300-$500 for 3-5 hrs "work"... and face it, if you're doing what you love, is it really work?
 
ecktronic said:
Can anyone think of or know of ways to create a buzz around their own band?

Personally, when I want a buzz, I cut the shields on my mic cables. Maybe it's just me. :D

But seriously, cut yourself an EP. Four or five songs. Do a small run. Take them and give them away whenever you play. Play anywhere you can---on the street corner, at the mall, at clubs. Make the tracks available on P2P.

Another nice trick is to find a local bookstore and ask them to give out a free copy of your EP with the purchase of music of a similar genre. Make a few dozen available at a couple of bookstores randomly. Encourage those folks to share those CDs with their friends.
 
We recently just played a show and worked very hard to promote it, all week long. We got about thiry people to come. Oh well, at least we sold some CDs. I guess getting in the newspaper and handing out flyers and talking to everyone doesn't work when there are several other events that night.
 
Make an EP 3 - 4 songs. Good quality. HAve a CD release party in one of the local live band clubs or back up a real popular band. But pick the club carefully. Pick a club that people go to BECAUSE of the entertainment. Not a club that entertainment is just an afterthought, or to fullfill some liquor permit criteria. Pick a club that has a bit of a loyal following.

Ok here's the important part. You gotto kick ass and have awesome tunes. You gotto "reasonably" blow people away. It's all about WOW.

Buzz is created when something is above the ordinary. If people aren't "buzzing" about you, there's nothing to buzz about. There is no secret (too bad eh).
 
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I've answered a question about this subject a couple times here with different ideas. By while further reflecting the idea I realised that it's all dependant on how seriously you are willing to take your band. If you're serious, then no scrifice is too great to achieve your goal. So, for those of you who are serious, and who have an open and logical mind, I decided to submit this:

Play!

Play anywhere and anytime that you can. Even for "free".

Remember, "free" is not a dirty evil word... it's often really a trade off for some form of publicity. You're going to pay for publicity in one form or another, why not as a free concert in the park?

Or better yet, if you want to attract attention and press, then take the time to arrange an actual concert at a local venue for charity? It's not as hard as you might think! Here's a basic step by step blueprint:

1) Have each band member choose a charity they would like to support, then vote or decide what order to attempt contact (You'll only be supporting one, but it may be difficult to make contact or get an initial reply from the first charity you pick, so have a couple backups handy)

2) Contact the charity and tell them of your intent to hold a "Multi Band 6 hr charity blast" on behalf of their oganization. They will assign someone to work with you. This person is trained to help convince people to help out. You will use this contact to help you do some of the legwork.

3) You contact the local venues and tell them what you want to do and that you would like them to donate their hall for an evening. If they seem reluctant then give them an "out". Let them think you're going away by saying "Could I call you back I have to take this call." Then call your contact at the charity and have him/her work over the venue manager.

4) Contact local talent and invite them to join you in helping this charity. Explain that it's good press. They'd be fools to turn down press of any kind. If some of the finer local talent is harder to convince, then have your charity representitive/pitbull talk to them. Someone may cancel and not show the night of the concert, so be sure you have enough material to fill in the space... and don't be afraid to give the stage over to the other bands to help fill that space.

5) Hit the local College &/or University and find students who are taking graphic design classes and sound engineering classes. Talk to the teachers, tell them what you're up to and ask which of his/her students would be a likely candidate to help out. She'll point you at the ones with the best talent and attitude. Explain to the student that this event will likely get some press and even if their name dosen't get mentioned, there will be a programme passed out in the lobby that will have full crdits in it. This would be something really good to show off during a future job interview no? -- Now you have a sound crew (maybe a lighting crew too), and someone to design your posters, flyers and programmes. It's shaping up. Local print shops may be willing to do the posters for free - it is a charity and therefore tax deductable - just don't try to take advantage of them.

Also while you're here, why not hit the jurnalizm class and find someone to write your press release?

6) Talk to the local music stores, encourage them to get involved by putting up the posters and supporting the musicians involved by supplying and needed rental equipment. In fact, ask them to outright sponser the event. You'd be surprised what that means. If any expenses are encured, then they often will absorb those expenses and write it off as advertising. -- Again use your charity contact as needed.

7) Submit a press release to the local newspapers and television. Even if the event itself doesn't seem to be all that huge to you, make it sound huge. Make it sound huge and it will become huge.

8) DO NOT LET THE MOMENTUM FALL. Keep everything hapening at a breakneck pace. If the momentum falls then intrest will fall. Keep on top of everything. Don't try to do it all yourself, delegate certain resposibilities to the other band mambers. Somone in charge of all press and advertising; someone making contact with other musicians; someone handling the venue etc.... and keep on them to keep on top of things. KEEP THE MOMENTUM MOVING TILL OPENING NIGHT!

9) Selling tickets: Local music stores, record stores or why not, pick a school in one of the poor parts of town. A school that lacks budget for sports equipment, computers etc. And use that as the charity, and have the kids sell tickets the same way they sell candy bars etc.

10) TRY TO HAVE FUN: This is going to be a lot of stressful work, but remember at the end of the night you'll have made a loud noise (so to speak) and a large mark in the community. Then -- start the ball rolling again for another project.


I know many of you will say "It won't work.", "It's a waste of time.", "You don't know what the hell you're talking about!"

I say this: If you have a single logical bone in your body then you know this to be true -- Things don't happen to people. People make things happen for themselves.

Local bars and venues don't go door to door (or garage to garage) looking for talent to play their club. If they don't know who you are, then you're not likely to get stage time. But if your band recently hosted a charity event and you're in the midst of rolling out another event, then you're news. News sells booze. You walk into any venue in your area at that point and say "We'd like to talk to you about booking us, maybe you heard of the (NAME) concert last week?" then hand him the news clipping. Trust me, he'll want your bands name on his sign outside.

Buzz doesn't just happen. You have to "make" it.... that's WHY they call it "Making a buzz".

If you're still sitting there rolling your eyes and thinking I'm nuts, then perhaps you should step backwards and look at yourself and decide weather or not you're really serious about yourself and your music.

And before anone spews off comments like "I don't see your name out there on a top ten list." or "You're not famous so you're full of it!" look for some of my previous posts, you'll find that I never really took myself or my music seriously at THAT level...by choice. I had my day in the sun back in the 80's. I played all over Canada and even before an audience of 3000+ and I still say I prefer a cozy blues bar with about 15-20 peeps. I play inside my comfort zone. It's where <b>I</B> like to be.

:cool: :cool:

--==[ Tanlith ]==--
 
ecktronic said:
Can anyone think of or know of ways to create a buzz around their own band? Trying to get my band noticed by loads of people. Ive put our music on soundclick and internet radio stations aii and indieindie radio. Got a feature in a few local papers. Play gigs and advertise them by word of mouth and on forums.
Not too sure what else to do.

Heres a link to some of our stuff.

SEROTONE
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/seratonescotlandmusic.htm

get out of town.

bands who leave town and play, get more respect when they come back home as long as you keep your fans posted from the road via email list.

Let the unknown factor create buzz for you
 
goldencd said:
Let the unknown factor create buzz for you
That only happens if you're good and playing with good bands. If nobody's ever heard of you, they're not gonna pay to go to some shanty and watch. It also depends on where you play. A pop band doesn't belong in a bar.

I'm not gonna go into extreme detail because I want people to actually read my post... haha. The only way to create buzz is by differentiating yourself from the norm. You can do this through musical style, attitude/interpersonal skills, gimmicks/novelty. You'll never hear someone say "Hey, did you hear that generic band the other night? They were amazingly mediocre!"

I speak from experience.
 
noodles2k5 said:
I'm not gonna go into extreme detail because I want people to actually read my post... haha....

Was that a poke at my long-ass post?

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Ok ... wait... does that last statement count as sexual herassment?

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Seriously though, why do people come here asking questions that have no simple answer then expect a 5-10 word sentence in reply solving all their problems?

I've said it before and I'll say it again - Although it's an amazing tool for just about anyone seeking information, the internet has created a generation that is WAY too insistant on "instant gratification".

"Hey! That's cool... I want it!" *CLICK* it's yours

"That's cool too!" *CLICK* it's yours...

Sure some of it takes money, but if it takes time effort or heaven forbid work (Will I get booted for using a four-letter word?) then everyone cries "There's gotta be an easier way!"

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Guglielmo Marconi, an Italian inventor, proved the feasibility of radio communication. He sent and received his first radio signal in Italy in 1895. By 1899 he flashed the first wireless signal across the English Channel and two years later received the letter "S", telegraphed from England to Newfoundland. This was the first successful transatlantic radiotelegraph message in 1902.
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If after 103 years since the first official discovery of broadcast radio don't you think SOMEONE would have found that magical mystical answer?

Get yer heads around it! If a way existed, then of the the literally millions (yes I said millions - we shouldn't be so arrogant as to believe there's only a hand full of people in the past few hundred years that wanted to become musical entertainers) of people who've paid their dues would have found the answer by now.

What your asking for cannot be summed up in a mere few sentences. There's no realistic general answer for that question. A whole host of factors could effect a logical course of action for each person depending on say their geographic location. There just might not be a major call for that type of entertainment there... so either create a need or move somewhere else.

The point is, people come to places like this to learn... what could you possibly learn in just a few short sentences? Not too bloody much!

My best advice is get off your ass, get offline, get out there and BE SEEN!

I've said it a bazillion times (OK - maybe only a million) record companies don't go door to door looking for talent. Nor do local bars and venues. Make some noise somewhere other than your garage or basement.

Too long for you? :D :D :D :D :D

- Tanlith -
 
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goldencd said:
get out of town.

bands who leave town and play, get more respect when they come back home as long as you keep your fans posted from the road via email list.

Let the unknown factor create buzz for you

Interesting point. Its that kinda anti-marketing thingy. Dont give them the product and they want it more. But it aint practical to leave town. But i suppose we could stop playing in the town for a while and then get back into it. But at the same time each gig we play we always see new faces from playing with other bands and they always seem to love us. So its a kinda hard choice. Plus i love playing gigs.
 
Keep playing

Everything posted up here is really great advice: Keep playing, hook up with the other bands in your area, your own website, e-mail newsletters,... keep up the word of mouth. It's a lot of work to get yourself or your band noticed. There's a lot of very unglamorous work, phone calls, following up with clubs, posting flyers. you gotta do all that stuff too.
Definitely the #1 thing is you should get that 4-5 song EP made. (Or close to the top of your list. Let's face it , it's a huge expense!)There's nothing better than to hand the CD off to someone, and having something tangible. Try to explain your band to someone without a CD.

Also, for a kick, go rent "Dig!" on dvd it's a documentary on the bands Dandy Wharhols & BJM. Basically it's not what to do while touring, and basically what not to do working with people. Interesting movie.

For a quick fix go enter www.santacruzlivebattle.com I'm not trying to spam you, it's just free for your band. Keep your eye out for similar stuff like this and options down like this down the road. Keep promoting! Good luck!
 
Cheers Gregggor, we have just finished our debut album and are just waiting to get it to the printers to blast off a load of copies.

By the way the band is called SEROTONE and you can listen to some of their tracks from their debut album at the link at the bottom.

Ta.
 
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