CPU too hot?

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Ok so I'm using an AMD Athlon XP 3200+. When I first built this pc (quite some time ago now) I was getting temperatures in the 40's when idle...

Now its idling at an absolutely stupid 62 degrees C!

The mobo temperature has gone up also, from what was 24 degrees, to what is now on average 30 degrees.

I really don't understand why the hell it would suddenly start doing this. Its been like this for a fair few months now. And its actually starting to piss me off. I have also noticed while using cubase lately that the CPU load is twice as high as it used to be, whilst using the same amount of vst's as before.

Is my CPU on the way out? Does anyone know any testing tools that actually give me some plain english results? I have tried a few diagnostic tools, but they don't seem to tell me much (well they don't tell me anything really, they just run the tests, and thats it).

I have checked airflow, and there doesn't seem to be a problem there. However, even with the side panel taken off it idles at 58. I have taken off the original AMD heatsink, and replaced it with a bigger cooler heatsink (I say cooler because I was using it before a while ago and getting some pretty good results). I'm pretty sure I've seated the heatsink correctly, and applied the thermal goo correctly. Its almost as if my CPU has suddenly become something have the spec of what it is?

Any expert suggestions? I've searched all over for something I have't tried yet but have run out of ideas.

Cheers.
 
Are all your fans still spinning? Air vents unblocked?
 
I had a PC in a dusty area and that drove up the temp dramatically... dust is an excellent insulator apparently.
 
^^^ same i hav ealot of dust and debre in my house..dunno why just do and my computer will be at 80 f and when i record or play alot of audio it will skyrocket to 90 f - 100 f around that..i know ive hit 120 f before haha so i dunno if yours goes really high and you havent installed anything else inside the computer..GPU or RAM w/e or virus could be running it hotter...wtf i dunno really...thinkin it could be dust..dust yea dust
 
I also agree. Dust clogging the fins on the heatsink will greatly prevent heat dissapation.

As long as all your fans seem to be working, (which, if they're not, can cause overheating issues) this seemed to solve the problem for my AthlonXP 2500+ that was rebooting under load. Don't worry, these chips are meant to run HOT so you shouldnt have sustained any damage.

1. Buy a can of Compressed air from your favourite computer supply store or major department store (best buy, staples, etc..). You can just blow it out with your mouth if you don't mind it in your face!

2. Remove the fan from your processor (usually 4 small sized philips screws). If you're uneasy about this, don't worry, this is very easy and is practically impossible to damage your computer unless you drop the screwdriver or something.

3. Bring your computer tower outside (or somewhere you dont mind dust flying everywhere

4. Blow out the heatsink and other areas of your case that look dusty.

You'll be amazed at how much dust can be clogged between the fins. Hope this helps!

Check this out:
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YUP Dust acts like a blanket, and doesn't allow heat to escape properly. Also to help airflow more, make sure your cables are not blocking the air too much, and it might be time to change case fans. Also, for even cooler, get a better case, and also don't put your computer some where, that doesn't allow great airflow also. My old AMD 3200+ 1mb cache computer, ran about 30c idle, 35c on full load. That was with a Thermaltake big typhoon on it.. My current cpu, idles at 19-20c, and on full load, it goes to 25c, with STOCK Intel heatsink (Intel Pentium D 930 3ghz (3.4ghz)). There are many other factors than dust, but you should periodically dust your machine out anyways.
 
My current cpu, idles at 19-20c, and on full load, it goes to 25c, with STOCK Intel heatsink (Intel Pentium D 930 3ghz (3.4ghz)).
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Can I ask how exactly you arrived at those numbers? I have never ever seen a P4 operate at room temp (20 C) at idle, ~50-60 C is what I would expect. Try measuring with speedfan which will talk to the SM bus on your mainboard that accesses all the temp probes

http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
 
My current cpu, idles at 19-20c, and on full load, it goes to 25c, with STOCK Intel heatsink (Intel Pentium D 930 3ghz (3.4ghz)).
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what you got it in a fridge !!!!! hahaha

if you can make a p3.4 run at that temp with a stock intel heat sink and fan
tell intel they will give you a job for life at $1,000,000 a year....

or tell me the secret and we shall rule the world.............
 
Thanks for the respnses guys. I think at sometime in the next few weeks I'm just going to take the whole thing apart, clean it, and put it back together again.
 
Every 3 months or so I open up my PC and take and Vacume cleaner on reverse to it and Blow all of the Dust out....

You would be surprised at how many Poeple have never cleaned out there PC, even after years of collecting Dust and they wonder why there PC is allways Crashing .....

I have opened up some PC"s that had so much dust in them that every fan was so clogged that the fans wouldn"t even moove.....


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OK, there's a few factors that come into play on my own system. For one, the house is kept at 69 degree's, so it's kinda chilly in here. That's how my g/f likes it... For 2, I have my computer in a open space, that's low to the ground, but not on carpet, this allows full air space, for my millions of fans to work. I have a modded case, which has 1 120mm fan that's blowing onto my HD's, and then I have a regular fan that's right above my CPU itself, that has one of those funnels that sends the cold air straight from the outside of the case, directly onto my CPU fan. That's one of the major factors. Instead of using the circulated warm are inside the case, I use cool air. There is also 2 top fans that suck warm air that rises, out the case, on the back, I use 2 fast case fans sucking air out also, and in the front, I'm using 4 regular case fans sucking cold air in. My front of the case, has grills that don't block the fans', so cold air is always being shot into the system. I also have a fan controller. My fans speed range from 3000rpm to 4500rpm. Of course, I might need to change fans sometime in the next 2 months, or they'll die. The new Pentium D's actually run cool, and the Core 2 Duos' run even cooler. The Pentium 4's ran hot.

My CPU fan is connected to motherboard because my computer won't turn on without it connected (Safety measure of mobo). I use the fan controller's to view the temp, That's just temps that are in the case, my gpu, HD, and CPU (but I don't think it's as accurate as software ones) I use Speedfan, the temp program that came with my mobo, and esonic. Just checked SpeedFan, and it's reading 21c (that's with COD2 running, me listening to music, and Adobe Photoshop running. Somewhat almost full load.

ALSO, I keep the insides of my case clean looking, and dust free, or as near dust free as I can get it with a air compressor. One day, I took a BIG house fan, and opened my case up, and then set the fan right on the outside, and checked if that would cool my system even more, but it didn't. It's how you manage the air going in and coming out. The side of my case, allows me to "clock" in where the funnel/fan sits at, so that it is directly on my cpu (actually the funnel touches my stock cpu fan somewhat). This system is so cool, I'm afraid of going out and buying a aftermarket cooler because I might notice a temp increase using something like a thermaltake big typhoon or something.

btw... my system does sound like a Jet engine. The more you cool your HD, CDroms, the less hot air will circulate inside your case. My GPU fan is a Zalman, which is also being blown on with 2 case fans that cool off my PCI slots. That big 120mm fan cools off my chipsets. Some people cool just certain items, but those other overlooked components continuosly generate standing heat, that continues to circulate around in the case. My case inside is around 30c.

At night, when I'm downloading something off of say morpheus, I have lights inside my computer, I tend to cover up my whole computer with a blanket, cause my girl can't sleep with ANY lights on. When I wake up, the temp on my system is around like 50c, of course cpu is then hot, around 60c etc... but after an hour with straight airflow, it drops down to my normal levels.
 
and the Core 2 Duos' run even cooler
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Um, I run a E6600 and it idles at 39-40 C, so your readings are wrong plain and simple. A pentium D is a dual core pentium 4 btw, it should run at a temperature very close the a single core pentium. Are you using the correct mainbaord profile for your motherboard in speed fan?

the house is kept at 69 degree's, so it's kinda chilly in here.
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Lol, thats tropical (20.5 deg C) so there is NO WAY PHYSICAL WAY that your sensors are reading correctly. Even with the best watercooling rig in the world, the lowest temperature you can have is room temp
 
altitude909 said:
Um, I run a E6600 and it idles at 39-40 C, so your readings are wrong plain and simple. A pentium D is a dual core pentium 4 btw, it should run at a temperature very close the a single core pentium. Are you using the correct mainbaord profile for your motherboard in speed fan?



Lol, thats tropical (20.5 deg C) so there is NO WAY PHYSICAL WAY that your sensors are reading correctly. Even with the best watercooling rig in the world, the lowest temperature you can have is room temp
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OK, so how do I get my sensors to "read" correctly? Should I complain to Speedfan, esonic, and the Coolmasters? So technically, if my room temp is at 69 degrees, and I'm blowing that cold air directly onto CPU, I CAN'T get my cpu to be around 20c?? I think your math might be a little messed up. 69F = 21c. Sometimes, my g/f likes to turn it even colder.

UM I think you need to rethink the way you cool your system. 40c is a little warm, for me. Go research the internet man. If you properly cool your system, even to the extreme, you CAN get down blow 30c easily.
 
Are there alot of fat people in your room? they tend to raise the temperature of a room about 10 degrees.
 
lmfao hahaha maybe thats why my computer gets hot...i gotta tell that fat bitch to stop huggin my computer..
 
the house is kept at 69 degree's, so it's kinda chilly in here.
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you should be this side of the pond it's bloody cold over here we have had the central heating running to get the house to 21 degrees
 
axeman_ukl said:
you should be this side of the pond it's bloody cold over here we have had the central heating running to get the house to 21 degrees
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lol I bet your CPU is COLD when heater goes down. I used to live in minnesota, but that was LONG ago. I did live in wisconsin for a little bit like 10 years ago & I'm still trying to cope with the dramatic changes in Texas weather. It actually gets um "cool" here in texas... suprisingly
 
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