Country tune

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That was really good! Nice drum sounds and all around playing. Nice vocal. Good pitch.

The weakness in the lyric was "Yes I do..." kinda lacked impact and affirmation of how much you really do love her. I'd explore a more unique and meaningful killer line for that. [country songs...great ones...are remembered for clever twists, right? ] That'd be the place for the vocal lyric hook. And I don't recall anything that set up the rhyme with 'do'.

Some dipsy-doodles in the bridge progression...like minors and [more? can't remember] secondary sevenths or a temporary or permanent modulation would be nice....the changes are kinda predictable.

The recording sounds really good. The workout has to be undertaken in the arrangement, I think.

Really close to great.

One thing missing was the instrumental 'hook' between the ends of the choruses and beginnings of the verses. The guitar solo was more Dick Betts than generic country Tele Twang. Hit me funny, but I might get used to it. Some time spent inventing some likkedy-split licks there would be a good investment. Good country songs have these ripping Nashville studio-guy flights of genius that put 'em over the top.

MHO
 
I personally would suggest a few small changes to the mix if I may?

A little more of the acoustic would be really nice, just to bring it up to the level of the bass in the intro especially. Should keep the momentum through the song up a little more.
The snare sound to me is a little over-gated, set the release a little longer to get a bit more tone out of the drum. I'd also try putting in just a shade more high top end, but not much.
I really like the tone of the rhythm electric, and the stereo pan effect on it. But I think the solo guitar is a too overdriven, not sure it's in keeping with the rest of the song. Maybe a little cleaner would help it settle more.

I like the arrangement, but some good suggestions to try from jeffmaher there.
 
This is a great tune and it's closer to great than Jeff may think it is.

I saved it.

Thanks for posting it!

It isn't very often that country music gets posted here.
 
cobaltaudio said:
I personally would suggest a few small changes to the mix if I may?

A little more of the acoustic would be really nice, just to bring it up to the level of the bass in the intro especially.
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I saved the song because I really liked it. What I did to it when I saved song file was to hard limit it to -1 dB and boost the overall input by .1 dB which brought up the acoustic guitar intro quite nicely.

To my ears.....at least.

YMMV

Awesome song!
 
Thanks so much for listening fellas. Greatly appreciated.
I have such a tough time putting on the producer hat with my clients. Probably a different topic, but.......
 
Bands are so wrapped in playing the parts right, they need someone at arm's length to put that producer hat on. Objectivity is the first casualty of performance-related involvement in the process. And a smart composer(s) will welcome the assistance. The dumb, egomaniacal ones......tell 'em it's a hit...collect the money.

I know it's touchy. I've been involved, as a side-man, with both kinds of composers....and a producer who was just as bad as the worst brat in the studio. I think a creative unit without a 'producer'...or someone wearing that hat...is like a football team without a coach. Try to be diplomatic. Trust your objectivity. I think it increases the opportunity of success among clients, in almost every case. They'll be back with fatter wallets, statistically, I'm thinking.
The Beatles without George Martin??
I record, play, and write all my stuff. The few times I have had the luck to consult with hatted ones, educated in the language...or just someone with a tasteful, attentive ear... have all been good. I suck , otherwise....and even then. I have LITTLE objectivity....even after a year away from a piece.

I think I'm getting better, though.....mebbe.

ps...I thought it was your tune, you recorded with a band assembled for the purpose. That's why I went on about the arrangement. Solly. I don't know much about recording......a little better with construction issues.
 
Nice song, nice recording. Something strange is going on with the guitars though. I monitor though JBL 4328's on my desk. It sounds like one of the guitars keeps moving from one side to the other and back again. I suspect there is a delay on the right guitar that is panned hard left. I like wide panning, but I find this a bit distracting. It could be that the delay is a bit too long and that dropping the delay time might "fix" it. Other than that, nice job and execution on a good country song (and I'm not that much of a country fan).
 
60's guy said:
I saved the song because I really liked it. What I did to it when I saved song file was to hard limit it to -1 dB and boost the overall input by .1 dB which brought up the acoustic guitar intro quite nicely.

To my ears.....at least.



YMMV

Awesome song!
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I would love to hear it.
 
jeffmaher said:
Bands are so wrapped in playing the parts right, they need someone at arm's length to put that producer hat on. Objectivity is the first casualty of performance-related involvement in the process. And a smart composer(s) will welcome the assistance. The dumb, egomaniacal ones......tell 'em it's a hit...collect the money.

I know it's touchy. I've been involved, as a side-man, with both kinds of composers....and a producer who was just as bad as the worst brat in the studio. I think a creative unit without a 'producer'...or someone wearing that hat...is like a football team without a coach. Try to be diplomatic. Trust your objectivity. I think it increases the opportunity of success among clients, in almost every case. They'll be back with fatter wallets, statistically, I'm thinking.
The Beatles without George Martin??
I record, play, and write all my stuff. The few times I have had the luck to consult with hatted ones, educated in the language...or just someone with a tasteful, attentive ear... have all been good. I suck , otherwise....and even then. I have LITTLE objectivity....even after a year away from a piece.

I think I'm getting better, though.....mebbe.

ps...I thought it was your tune, you recorded with a band assembled for the purpose. That's why I went on about the arrangement. Solly. I don't know much about recording......a little better with construction issues.
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Yeah, I appreciate the great feedback bro, and agree on most of it. I just have so much trouble it seems with guiding bands. Afterall it is their music, not mine. At what point do I take it over. I guess it depends on the client. some are more receptive than others. Some can't physically play what I want them to. Do I play it at that point? Do I suggest they hire someone who can, and then not be on their own recording?? Get what I mean? This is the single biggest issue I have in the studio. I mean really, this is a classic country song and not one guy brought a telecaster!!! And they were insistent that I record this in one day, even after I gave them a lump sum price. I tried to explain to them that they were shooting themselves in the foot in regards to the final product.
I ramble, thanks so much for your input my man, greatly appreciated
 
Richard King said:
Nice song, nice recording. Something strange is going on with the guitars though. I monitor though JBL 4328's on my desk. It sounds like one of the guitars keeps moving from one side to the other and back again. I suspect there is a delay on the right guitar that is panned hard left. I like wide panning, but I find this a bit distracting. It could be that the delay is a bit too long and that dropping the delay time might "fix" it. Other than that, nice job and execution on a good country song (and I'm not that much of a country fan).
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yeah, it's a stereo panned guitar. Going for an organ type feel here. I suggested an organ and have a mix with an organ part on it. kind of a Zac Brown kinda thing. But it didn't make the cut.
Thanks for the listen!!
 
cobaltaudio said:
I personally would suggest a few small changes to the mix if I may?

A little more of the acoustic would be really nice, just to bring it up to the level of the bass in the intro especially. Should keep the momentum through the song up a little more.
The snare sound to me is a little over-gated, set the release a little longer to get a bit more tone out of the drum. I'd also try putting in just a shade more high top end, but not much.
I really like the tone of the rhythm electric, and the stereo pan effect on it. But I think the solo guitar is a too overdriven, not sure it's in keeping with the rest of the song. Maybe a little cleaner would help it settle more.

I like the arrangement, but some good suggestions to try from jeffmaher there.
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Thanks for the input. The drummer likes a real tight high snare. Can't recall the attack and release time on the comp, but I rarely use much. On something likr this just 2 or 3 db to even it out a hair, he's a pretty good player. If I set my mic's up right i typically won't gate the drums, I tend to think the bleed adds to the overall sound with the exception of the kick mic.
Having said that, see my other post in regards to producing. This not a snare drum I would have picked. Something with a nice full drum sound would have been more appropriate in my opinion.

followed you on twitter btw. :)
 
Others who have commented are much more qualified than me, but i would like it more with the high end cut just a little (not increased like cobaltaudio suggested - he's the pro though). I thought that the bright parts of the vocals brought this out. Possibly just a little lower on the high end of the loud parts of the vocals?
 
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