Cool Edit/ softsynths?

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Does anyone here use Cool Edit Pro 2.0 with software based synthesizers or samplers? Thus far I've been only using my external workstation sampler and keyboard outside of regular live instruments, and I'm looking at making the move into a softsynth like Reason or Creamware's Minimax, but I'm not sure how this works. I'm sure if I wrote a part in the synth program and saved it as .wav I could open it in a session, but what I'm trying to figure out is if I have a session already recorded in cool edit, could I play along in say Reason via the external midi controller and record that in real time onto a new track in Cool Edit? How does VST come into play here?

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I don't know, because I haven't done that myself, but isn't it just a matter of making sure the two softwares deal in the same sort of files? You can import mp3 files into a CE session, for example, because CE handles mp3 files.

Having said that, I have problems with CE and Fruity Loops: they don't like being open at the same time, and often one or the other will jack the other's sample rate around, and everything starts playing at half speed or something, and I have to restart the computer and go: aaaaaarrrrrggggghhhhhfurphuxache!

Yeah, right - we need more input. In fact, we need experience.
 
Do I dare venture into the COMPUTER RECORDING AND SOUNDCARDS forum with this?! Dobie, IT"S SCARY IN THERE! They are mean. If I go will you come with me? I may need some back-up to take on these dweebs! :eek:
 
Well, I can't wait for you anymore. I'm going in. If you don't hear from me in a while you'll no what happened. :(
 
CE is not a midi-bases program..
But cep2 can play back midi files on a track at a synth, so also a software synth. You'll have to record your midi information in logic, cubase, whatever, and put it in the multitrack as a mixed .mid-file...

Or you'll have to open cep and your software synth program like reason, and connect two outputs to two inputs and record in cep while playing back in reason..
I've never tried it, guess you'll get a lot of problems with drivers and all..
 
CEP is a recorder/editor. Get cubase for VSTs. SX is a revolution in DAW software.
 
JamieArgo- hey man I read a review that Sonar does not support VST and sometimes has trouble reading some MIDI devices. What kind of crap you throwin' at me homie?

Pilgrim- I have considered Cubase, mainly for it's compatibility with Reason via Rewire. I would really like to stick with Cool Edit if there was a way I could figure out how to do this. It seems like there should be a way to pull this off in Cool Edit!
Whst's SX?

Fucksia- Thanks for the reply, I know that about CEP2, I don't want to record midi information, I want to record a .wav. That input-output thing sound kind of whack. How would I monitor the playback if my output goes into my input?

Somebody? Anybody?
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SX is the newest version of cubase. Ive basically jumped ship after 5 or so years with CEP bec of its lack of VST support and most of all, its lack of comprehensive automation. Cubase has everything you could want automated...every parameter of every effect. I love CEPs interface and always will but the lack of automation is something I stopped being able to live with. BTW, theres a light version of cubase called SL which is like $300 and it kills CEP. I know I sound like a heretic but these are the facts.
 
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Fucksia- Thanks for the reply, I know that about CEP2, I don't want to record midi information, I want to record a .wav. That input-output thing sound kind of whack. How would I monitor the playback if my output goes into my input?
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Well, it's really simple if you've got more than 1 st output, then you connect 1&2 to the monitor, and 3&4 to some inputs.
If not, you could use a split-cable for monitoring.
But in fact, you don't have to monitor it. Just record some midi information with some program, plug ouput to input (be sure to mute any external device, it will cause terrible feedback), check the levels, and record it while you play the midi-data.

Hmm... I just got this great idea when typing this. Your problem can be much easier solved, by downloading a program like TotalRecorder (www.hitsquad.com/smm) or something. This will record everything your speakers produce, no matter where it's from. So open your softsynth, totalrecorder, and mute all mics, cd-players and all, and record while you play.

So forget about the first thing. That's more something for a multiple-i/o card, and way more complicated.
 
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JamieArgo- hey man I read a review that Sonar does not support VST and sometimes has trouble reading some MIDI devices. What kind of crap you throwin' at me homie?
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Bob, how come ? There's a VST to DirX converter for free... use it no problem. Trouble reading MIDI devices ? No way... aaaagh, cum ooon, you don't hang that much in Cakey forum huh ? Things developed now. anyway, I use SONAR conjunction with CEP 2, and they are perfect match. There's no pain using it, at least, untill somebody cracks CEP to do softsynth recording. :p
 
I have no idea if this will help but I've got a program called virtual audio cable. I have not tried it so i don't know what the hell it does. I happened on it and thought it might be useful someday. Say, who knows the size limit for attaching files here? Any way it's like 300k or something. If you want i'll mail it to ya.
 
Wow. Now there's a lot to chew on. Let's summarize:

CEP alone won't do it.
CEP + Sonar + Free direct X to VST Converter = Reason = live recording
CEP + virtual audio cable maybe works
CEP + totalrecorder(?) will record everything played through speakers. I don't want to record everything played through speakers though because I would onlt want to record the synth I was playing onto a new track in CEP while the synth plus the entire song that I was monitorong would be played over the speakers.

Well thanks for the help, it's been nice knowing you all! I'll see you in the Cubase forum!:cool:
 
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