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Greg_L
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Murdersgalore
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Do you prefer major notes or minor notes?
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Murdersgalore
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And a new fad begins.... Auto tuned guitar.
Manslick
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Enamel - best chord ever.
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benherron.rrr
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T-pain guitar. . . for people who cant play a guitar but want to market them selves as if they can
Lt. Bob
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dude ....... B# is absolutely and definitively a C
and there is absolutely and definitively such a thing as B# and even keys where that is the term used technically. The fact that B# is the same as C doesn't change the fact that B# is a note just like the fact that Bb is the same as A# doesn't do away with either of them.
as I pointed out ....... the fact that they are the same note does not mean they don't exist. All a flat or sharp sign means is to go up or down a half step. That applies regardless of if the term is used very often. I have absolutely seem music scores in symphonic music where notes are referred to as B# or even Cb or almost any other unlikely note-name you might come up with.
For that matter double flats and double sharps are even sometimes used although that just means go up or down a full step.
Why use a double flat or double sharp? ........ or Cb or B#? ...... meh ..... it can have to do with the key signature. If it's a key signature where there's a lot of flats they don't want to use sharps in there so if you have an accidental they'll try to use the same sign for the accidental as the predominate sign of the key is ..... it's always seemed dumb to me actually but that doesn't change the fact that all those notes do exist.
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RAMI
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There very well might be (though I've probably never heard anyone referring to it that way)....but in the context of what the OP was asking....
....I'm 100% positive he wasn't referring to it in that context and has no concept of music theory.
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moresound
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I've always wanted a Fb.
CaptGoldenEars
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Play this one in Bb, just don't be flat.
Lt. Bob
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I'm in agreement with that however ....... I want to be sure the technical facts are correct
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RAMI
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Lt. Bob
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just to add to the confusion ..... you can have a half flat which is a reversed flat sign d .... you can have a flat and a half which is db ..... you can have a double flat which is bb ..... and even a triple flat ... bbb.
A double sharp looks like a small x.
I've run into that one and the double flat also.
That was way back when I was playing bassoon in symphony but I have actually seen both of those in music I was actually playing. All of this stuff is pretty much confined to classical stuff but it does exist.
I've never seen a triple flat or half flat but all the others have cropped up in the symphonic music I was doing way back when..
A double sharp looks like a small x.
I've run into that one and the double flat also.
That was way back when I was playing bassoon in symphony but I have actually seen both of those in music I was actually playing. All of this stuff is pretty much confined to classical stuff but it does exist.
I've never seen a triple flat or half flat but all the others have cropped up in the symphonic music I was doing way back when..
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moresound
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Peter B
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It's perfectly obvious that what this thread needs is a musical anorak..........that's me.
There is a term used to denote different ways of 'spelling' the name of a note, and it's called enharmonic. For example B#=C=Dbb, E#=F=Gbb, Fx=G=Abb
An 'enharmonic change' is the respelling of a note in accordance with its changing function, for example, Db is renamed C# in a modulation from the key of Db major to the key of A minor. An 'enharmonic modulation' involves the respelling of a key, usually when there is a change in mode, for example, from the key of C#minor to the key of Db major.
Now............everyone got that?
PS: What's a microphone?
There is a term used to denote different ways of 'spelling' the name of a note, and it's called enharmonic. For example B#=C=Dbb, E#=F=Gbb, Fx=G=Abb
An 'enharmonic change' is the respelling of a note in accordance with its changing function, for example, Db is renamed C# in a modulation from the key of Db major to the key of A minor. An 'enharmonic modulation' involves the respelling of a key, usually when there is a change in mode, for example, from the key of C#minor to the key of Db major.
Now............everyone got that?
PS: What's a microphone?
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sjjohnston
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Uhm ... isn't that exactly what I said in the last paragraph of my post (one particular instance, anyway ... B# can also appear as an accidental, though it's usually not written that way)?
LeeRosario
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Sorry if someone said it already:
First off, autotune is a super pain in the ass to fix note for note. It works better as a "set it and forget it" type plug-in. Programs like melodyne work way better at changing and reshaping notes.
Have you tried following autotune with another pitch correcting plug-in in that chain?
For example, you could take a program like Melodyne to shape the initial vocal line to the way you like it, then apply autotune after that. In fact, a technique I learned is to record autotune on the way in (very lightly) in the correct key of the song (if you have the ability to do real-time plug-in processing). It's weird to the singer at first, but they quickly start singing the correct pitch to match the effect of autotune. You end up getting this super clean type take that sounds a little more digitized than a raw take. Most pop singers actually like doing takes this way.
Then using a program like Melodyne or Waves Tune, you can correct or reshape whatever autotune didn't do and top it off with autotune (set to taste). Walla, mainstream pop vocals
First off, autotune is a super pain in the ass to fix note for note. It works better as a "set it and forget it" type plug-in. Programs like melodyne work way better at changing and reshaping notes.
Have you tried following autotune with another pitch correcting plug-in in that chain?
For example, you could take a program like Melodyne to shape the initial vocal line to the way you like it, then apply autotune after that. In fact, a technique I learned is to record autotune on the way in (very lightly) in the correct key of the song (if you have the ability to do real-time plug-in processing). It's weird to the singer at first, but they quickly start singing the correct pitch to match the effect of autotune. You end up getting this super clean type take that sounds a little more digitized than a raw take. Most pop singers actually like doing takes this way.
Then using a program like Melodyne or Waves Tune, you can correct or reshape whatever autotune didn't do and top it off with autotune (set to taste). Walla, mainstream pop vocals
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benherron.rrr
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Sorry if someone said it already:
First off, autotune is a super pain in the ass to fix note for note. It works better as a "set it and forget it" type plug-in. Programs like melodyne work way better at changing and reshaping notes.
Have you tried following autotune with another pitch correcting plug-in in that chain?
For example, you could take a program like Melodyne to shape the initial vocal line to the way you like it, then apply autotune after that. In fact, a technique I learned is to record autotune on the way in (very lightly) in the correct key of the song (if you have the ability to do real-time plug-in processing). It's weird to the singer at first, but they quickly start singing the correct pitch to match the effect of autotune. You end up getting this super clean type take that sounds a little more digitized than a raw take. Most pop singers actually like doing takes this way.
Then using a program like Melodyne or Waves Tune, you can correct or reshape whatever autotune didn't do and top it off with autotune (set to taste). Walla, mainstream pop vocals
Just a thourght, could you put an auto tune into the headphone mix, just like you would a little reverb or compression. could that help the vocalist hit the notes, or would that just create the illusion that the vocalist is singing in tune when they are not?
LeeRosario
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Yes, that's exactly what you would do. You would feed auto tune either as a temporary real time plug (that they can hear) or set it up to print to tape (which they can still hear). The reverb and delay you would set just for vibe, not to print...unless you're into that sort of thing.
If it's a *good* singer, they can follow auto tune without it screwing them up. Notes that are way off will sound very uncomfortable "chorusey" to the singer and to the engineer. So when they are on, it sounds more like a nice chorus than something that makes them want to cut their ears off.
If it's a *good* singer, they can follow auto tune without it screwing them up. Notes that are way off will sound very uncomfortable "chorusey" to the singer and to the engineer. So when they are on, it sounds more like a nice chorus than something that makes them want to cut their ears off.