Control 24 Recording Studio Equipment Set Up List

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I need help with coming up with a start out list of equipment to set up my recording studio around the Control 24. I'm interested in setting it up around the HD system so that it will be highly compatible if I need to take my music to professional high end studios for completion. I mainly want to use my studio for creating gospel and r&b music with a pop or rock feel. I know that I need a G-5, A motif 6 keyboard for instruments to start out, studio monitors, high-quality microphone, of course the control 24, a vocal booth, and the Argosy desk. But what else do I need? If someone could help me out with a good list to follow when I start doing my purchasing, I would highly appreciated it. Thanks a lot in advance.:p
 
not to be picky, but you say you 'need' a g5...
why is that? i'm not saying there's anything wrong with a g5, but it was replaced by the mac pro in 2006, and is probably beaten in performance by many modern lower spec C2D options...

plus, the g5 is the last line of ppc processor macs, which are not supported by snow leopard and future updates, so really you're buying into a dead end..


also,,you say you need a vocal booth,,,,,,now, i don't have much experience with booths/treatments, but every indication on the forums seems to say that a well treated room is a better choice than a vocal booth.


do you 'need' a control 24?

i use one every other day at college, and at home i use a 003, and tbh i don't feel that the 003 holds me back at all.

if you need more than 18 inputs, that's fair enough, but if you could get by with say 12 (003 gives maximum 18), i'd recommend it instead, with an 8 channel adat unit like the focusrite octopre le.
i'm guessin that you mightn't be needing a huge number of inputs cos you mention 'a good quality microphone' rather than loads of em, but i could be reading too far into that.





i know that going 003 will mean you're on LE rather than HD, but again i don't see what the fuss is about and you're gona save a few thousand goin that way.

The only advantage that i actually see in using the two systems is that HD does automatic delay compensation but,,again, it doesn't bother me too much having to do it manually...and there are plugins that you can buy to do it anyway (mellowmuse ata)

i don't see any advantage to the processing power of HD systems,,,not with modern computers being as powerful as they are....i've mixed pretty heavy sessions on a single quad core 3.4ghz w/ 8gb ddr1066, and never experienced a hitch, even with low hw buffer settings.

a 003 LE setup will leave you every bit as compatible as an HD rig, but if you do decide to pursue HD, you will need to buy (and feel free to correct me here) at least one hd core card, and an HD interface (192?)


i've often heard the control 24 referred to as a 'big keyboard' or a 'big mouse', and tbh it's totally true...there's a lot more to an HD rig.


hope that's useful.
 
Following on from a good post, I thought I'd just clear up a misconception which seemed to come across in that post...

The Control 24 is NOT an interface. Therefore it has absolutely no bearing what so ever on the I/O of your Pro Tools rig.
 
not sure if you're correcting me or the op

i've identified that with the control 24, an interface is required..




if i wasn't clear there
the digi 003 provides an interface, preamps and a control surface

the control 24 provides preamps and a control surface,,,and requires a separate digidesign interface....
 
Steenamaroo said:
not sure if you're correcting me or the op

i've identified that with the control 24, an interface is required..




if i wasn't clear there
the digi 003 provides an interface, preamps and a control surface

the control 24 provides preamps and a control surface,,,and requires a separate digidesign interface....
Click to expand...

Upon re-reading your first post, it seems I misunderstood what you said; it was because you said the 003 could be a replacement to the Control 24, then mentioned I/O in the same breath. No worries.

Either way it is very common for a lot of people to think that the Control 24 (Or the newer C24, which I would always recommend over the older unit) is an interface in its own right which we've established it is not.

Incidentally there's no reason you couldn't use a 003 rack in conjunction with the Control 24 or C24 with Pro Tools LE.
 
ah yeh,,,,fair enough, i can see how that would be misleading...


anyway, the point's made, and as you said, it's one worth making....




i'd echo your sentiments about the c24 (which is actually what we have at college),,,,,it is much nicer than the control 24.

also back up what you say about using a 003 rack as an interface to the c24,

but on both counts i wouldn't recommend the 24 to the OP,




in my opinion,,,HD is faaaaar too expensive unless you NEED it (and even then it's too dear)

and using a 003 as interface to a c24 is just a waste of a c24. all those preamps going to waste. (altho i'm sure someone picky will point out that you could probably route 4 of them into the 003 rack's line ins?)

anyways, here's hopin he comes back with more info....





edit......WOW,,just looked up argosy pricing...........+1 for a 003.

i duno how handsy you are but here's a pic of what i did for £40

http://www.webforni.com/steen/pics/1.jpg
 
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Dude your link sets off Safari's malware detectors. I don't wanna visit.

Yeah I agree with what you're saying about the C24 being wasted going into the 003 Rack, but then you're not exactly buying it for the preamps; they're an added bonus.

On the HD front, if you need HD it's going to pay for itself before long.

I was fortunate that I got mine for an amazing price, and that (not necessarily fortunately) I had a bit of inheritance which was to be invested in something worthwhile.

I've little doubt that within 6 months of graduating, I'll have earned back what I spent on my HD rig; but then I'm a special case. It's not an outlay, it's an investment.

I wouldn't take a studio seriously if they were recording to LE... Prudish and snobby as that may be, that's what I think.

If they're not willing to invest in a professional recording system, why would I want to invest in them for my recordings? My 2 cents anyway.
 
thanks for the headsup,,,,,

server had an issue a while back,,,,thought it was clean now but obviously not :(

regarding not taking a studio seriously,,,,,i guess it depends on what level of clients you're getting, but so far,, any one i've recorded wouldn't know the difference....

they're like 'oh wow, you've got protools',,,,,and i'm guessin the only reason they know that is cos it says it when you load it up :P:P


sure, it's gota be different if you're running a business tho.......any one i record has come to me cos they've heard past recordings that i've done,,,


once someones booked in based on example recordings, they probably wouldn't care if all i had was an 8 track reel......as long as their record sounds like the example
 
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