Compression Woe

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Okay, I have a DPS16 that has built in compression effect. It seems that no matter what setting the effect is set to, it never really does much, the only difference i hear is when I turn the output level up or down.

I dont really understand how the effect works, only that it squashes sound to even out the levels. Can anyone share their settings for vocals. My problem is common to all I presume...Singing soft verse, then a loud chorus.

Thanks for any insight.

sondriven
 
Originally posted by sondriven
I dont really understand how the effect works, only that it squashes sound to even out the levels.

Thats all it should do.

My problem is common to all I presume...Singing soft verse, then a loud chorus.

OK. I don't think I understand what the problem is. Are you saying that it doesn't "squash" the sound?
 
I understand what compression does "squashes sound", but What I dont get is how to work the effect on the Akai DPS16.

I can move all the knobs and it just seems like its not doing anything. I heard that its not the greatest compressor, but it should work a little right?

The effect is on. I primarly dont understand "attack-release-threshold-ect"
 
Sondriven:

The compressor on my DPS only works as when the effect is set to insert. That means you only get one track per compressor. A lot like real life, I suppose. Then again, you can do your compression and save the track, move the uncompressed one into your v-tracks so you can readjust if necessary.

I'm running v1.01. Gotta get the updates as soon as I get a cdrw.
 
A general rule would be to start with a ratio of 3:1, a threshold of -10 or 20, and a medium fast attack and medium release. That's a generic setting that you can then tweak to suit the task at hand. A vocal may only need gentle limiting, like high ratio(4:1 to 8:1), high threshold(-10 to -5 , etc. You don't have to squash it(high ratio, low threshold, etc.), unless your looking for that tough aggresive sound. Too slow of an attack and you won't catch the peaks.Too fast a release and the compressor grabs the signal, then lets go, resulting in pumping and breathing(again, only useful if you want that very compressed sound).
I'm not familiar with that piece of gear, but I do know that some onboard digital compressors are a little generic and utilitarian.You buy a box that is an all in one studio in a box and the effects might be lame or the mic pres ain't too happenin or whatever. They are appealing in some ways and kinda cool in concept, but for the money they cost, you can't expect the compressors to win awards for being sweet sounding and precise instruments.
Some software plug in ones are wonderful, like the Waves, Focusrite, Drawmer, GML, and others. I used to work on a pair of Panasonic DA7 digital consoles and liked the onboard compressors ok. It was nice having one on every channel, plus on the 2 track bus. Very handy. I also like the ones in the Yamaha 02R, the Mackie ain't no slouch either. I guess if you ain't diggin the ones you got, getcha some cool outboard ones. Joe Meek SC2, FMR Audio RNC, and Drawmer MX30 are all affordable and inspiring tools, not dull lifeless utilities.
 
jsquare,

Thanks for the input, I found my problem, I had the effect on Post rather Insert on the DPS16.

Regarding the onboard effects, true some are rather "blah", so slowing Im gathering outboard effects like pre-amps, and i would like to get a Joe meek compressor.

Wheres a good place to get a cheap one?

sondriven
 
Glad to hear it's working out. I like Mercenary Audio and Parson Audio in Boston. Decent prices and expert customer service. I think that Sam Ash and Guitar Center will match any price. There's always Full Compass and Musician's Friend too. If your local music store can get Joe Meek, you may want to check them out. I only go to the mail order superstore type places when the studio I work at has a big order and wants to get it all at the same place.It's always a good idea, if you ask me, to support local businesses. If you are loyal to them, they may help you out someday, like when you need to rent a pair of mics at the last minute, or when you want to borrow some preamps to audition at your studio. Some of those music superstores are staffed by young guys in bands who make $6.00 an hour to sell guitar strings and practice amps and wouldn't know an electro optical compressor from a Fender Twin. Just my observation. Some folks at these places are passionate about audio and are very knowledgable, but many of them aren't and live to make that big sales commission in the sky.Try Harmony Central. They have a wide database of retailers. Also audioforums.com has a tab on their homepage that will steer you toward retailers. Only in America!
 
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