Comping Vocals???

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I hear all this talk about comping vocals and I just recently did 3 takes of a verse and I want to comp them in Cool Edit Pro. The thing is... how do I cut and paste the best parts without having to worry about them being off time. Do I make a 4th track or just delete parts from the existing 3 tracks? A little info on comping please, Im twisted! Thanks
 
Make a sort of grid with markers. Put a marker every where a seam will be. Then just highlight all three vocal tracks and make cuts at every mark. Choose which of the three you will use and move the sections to another track to solo and test. When you are happy with the soloed vocal delete the three scrap tracks.

Usually this results in a bad mix for me and I will need to spend some time getting the phrase volumes right to match seamlessly.
 
Im kinda understanding it better but can you explain it a little more in detail, like.... specificly in Cool Edit Pro tips. Any shortcuts to doing this? Anythings to watch for?
 
My tracks are so overcompressed, that I can take any part at any time without having to worry about volume...

No, seriously, compression may help a lot if you do some compüs..

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I can't help with Cool Edit, as it is not a program I am familiar with. I do, however, have some general tips. The first step is, of course, to decide what parts you want to keep. I use a simple lyric sheet to do this. I print up as many copies as I have takes, plus one. I make sure to triple space them so that I have a lot of room to write on the paper.

I use each copy to write down which lines, or parts of lines, or even parts of words are not worth keeping. I then do an initial check to make sure I have all of the parts represented at least once. At this point I do whatever additional overdubs I need to do.

I then go through and chose exactly which take has the best versions of the individual lines, with an emphasis on using the longest pieces possible (the fewer cuts the better). I write down the edits I need to do on the extra copy of the lyric sheet.

Only after I have made all of these decisions do I start making my actual edits. This allows me to have the difficult creative decisions out of the way before I need to start doing the technical work.

Do not limit your self to hard edits. If you have a word which is good for the first syllable, but not the second, you can do a cross fade between the two takes in order to mask the change.

If you have a difficult vocal riff, going through a variety of vocal registers, you can record the different parts indifferent takes, and use some creative comping to make it sound like one take. If there if a part of the riff you, or you singer, can't sing, get some one else to sing it, and comp the parts of the riff together. I have done sessions where I have comped together 4 singers in about two beats. I have even comped men and women into one line. I would bet at least some of you have heard some of my more creative comps, and not even noticed there was a comp. Things like this are VERY common in pop music, though they are becoming less so as people rely more and more on Autotune and the like.


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Doing comps are easy, especially in Sonar. What I do is I get four or five fairly good vocal tracks. Then I set up another blank track. I audition each track and decide which parts of which track will go into the final vocal track. Then I cut up the tracks as needed and drag the good sections into the new track, archive the original tracks, and hide them. Voila! Comp’d vocal track.

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As I drag the good parts from the original tracks to the final track, I hold the shift key, which maintains their position in time. Maybe CEP has a comparable feature?
 
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