Clouds Will Fall (original track) work in progress

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Hi, The wife suggested I do a dance kind of thing. I'm more your raw lyrics kind of writer and usually accompany those lyrics with something noisy and dark. However against my better judgement I thought I'd give it a go.

I'm not sure about the composition of this hence my posting of the track, all feedback welcome.

Thanks

Tim

 
It works.
Terry & I used to record against a rock bossanova in the mid 80's just to break out of our shells a bit.
The song's quite good.
I think you need something on the drums to make them dancier - the rhythm's fine just the sound - I'd suggest downloading the Fish Fillets free VST pack from the net & use the Blockfish effect enclosed. Specifically Fat Drum Loop - it's a compressor that colours as well.
You still managed to hold onto some Bleak Blake in your lyric. Good!
Emphasising the bleep bloops a little more would suit the genre as well.
keep at it!
 
Always got have some bleak blake Ray, I'll look into the plug ins, I have to confess that I am not a big user of the PC in my music production. I have Cubebase and a couple of other pieces of software on the PC, don't get me wrong I'm very computer savvy but I like dials and knobs that I can physically twist or slide. I appreciate I may be excluding myself from some great options but there is something satisfying about about actually making the sounds and manipulating the hardware or instrument to achieve the content of my tracks. The bleep bloops are me on the guitar with a serious amount delay ect, not my usual application for a guitar but one has to experiment. Everything vocally on the track was done by using a number of tracks to layer some sections, I could have really created a massive vocal wall of sound had there seemed to be a need for it, but sometimes the right amount is just shy of getting carried away. I will most certainly have a tinker with the drum track as I did paste that together on the PC and have the original jigsaw saved, so plenty of options available with it. I have a guitar orientated itch after doing this track, I had to play for a couple for hours late last night in an effort to decontaminate myself after working with something that's a little alien to me.

As always your time and thoughts are appreciated.

all the best

Tim
 
Thanks for listening nyckylim, I'm always very self critical of my music and how it's recorded and learn something every time I work on a new track. I think I still have a lot to learn and this is a great place to pick up ideas and be brought back to earth by those with more experience. Recording and working with takes, mixing and so on, is a big part of the learning curve, but listening and actually hearing what makes the work of others have that wow factor on the very first listen is an extremely valuable exercise too. All the best with your recording.

Thanks

Tim
 
Very nice recording and song as usual, Tim. A strong Pink Floyd influence is heard, with maybe a touch of the Rolling Stones in the lyrics/melody. Clever stuff, my friend!

Cheers,
Joseph
 
Thanks for listening Joseph, I hope all is good with you and yours. I'm still finding my groove musically, in so much as I find myself trying different styles with no fixed agenda, hence the mish-mash of influences coming through. I enjoyed doing this track, although to be fair, when wife suggested using a more disco type of drum track I have to say I was a little cynical until I got the bass line added, at which point I got the bit between my teeth as the melody options started becoming apparent. The guitar sound is one of those toys that sits in the box and looks pretty but is often left unused for the lack of an application for it, so it was fun using it here. I enjoy lyric writing, so once I had the bare bones running the song pretty much wrote itself.

All the best my friend,

Tim
 


Just in the process of getting my assistant trained up, my six year old daughter.

Working through rag and heading for blues next lol

All the best

Tim
 
You have a potentially excellent assistant. Keep her on the good path!
 
She's a natural Ray, only been playing piano for around seven months, she sight reads and has perfect pitch. She can also copy guitar licks, parrot fashion on her nylon strung which is somewhat annoying. Glockenspiel and a range of percussion, and harmonica are also on her menu so I'm looking forward to doing some interesting tracks in the years to come.

I hope all is good with you, I have friends over later and I'm having to cook big time while the wife is at work so no recording today.

all the best

Tim
 
I've had a couple of friends with perfect pitch - you know the sort who can tell with their back turned that you've played an augmented 9th etc. One was a high school music teacher & superb show song writer and the other a show pony with a party trick. Sadly the former died early & the latter lives on playing the same party trick - excellent ears & a very, very good guitarist but with an ego larger than a Steinway.
My wife has a pretty good ear, you play it & she'll transpose it.
Myself; tin ear would be a compliment and thick ear an understatement.
the point is joy & passion in the end - I get the joy & have the passion - talent is then only a facilitator (or so I keep telling myself).
 
Your Bethany's a cutie-pie! And your track is amazing. I'm a little intimidated, but I'm guessing you've been at it for some time. ;)

I'm very big on variety within a single piece. It's especially important these days when the tracks tend to be 5 minutes or longer. You've done a pretty good job of keeping it fresh throughout, but I do notice the segments where you repeat two vocal notes for several bars. I find myself itching for a surprise.

The beginning is, *dare I say, perfect and beautiful. But the end is a little abrupt. If that's what you were going for, that's cool.

I'll have to listen to this a few more times. Did you use the lyrics "right between my eyes" at all? I heard "right before my eyes" and immediately thought BAM![\i]! :laughings:

*Perfection is not necessary for beauty, and often detracts from it.
 
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Thanks Ray, she's very unassuming, as we pretty much all are in this house unless poked with a stick. Developing her talent is the priority, without over burdening her enthusiasm. It's little things like her being able to recite my crappy lyrics while I'm still clinging to the handwritten scrawl for dear life in front of the mic. All good fun.

all the best Ray,

Jammeez,

Thanks for your kind words, I've been recording for 11 months, but in a focused way. It's been a learning curve to say the least. I didn't use "right between my eyes" but there are a couple of subtle word options here and there where it's double tracked to allow choice depending on which word catches the listener. I'll think about your suggestions and observations as they are good points, I have pondered the ending, not sure yet. Time is my issue at the moment, but I'll have another play with this during the holiday, albeit a tad short.

Many thanks

Tim
 
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