choosing the right mic to match a vocalist's characteristics?

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We all know here that the " best vocalist mic" is a subjective topic. The fact of the matter is that a U87 on one vocalist will hit the spot while a sm57 fits another's voice perfectly. My question is how does one go about deciding which mic is best for a vocalist?
recently I have contemplated the idea of forking out the money for a $2000+ tube mic but how will i know if its tailored for my type of voice instead of a sm57? is there some underlying process here or is it merely a task of trial and error?
 
Scriabin,

When you're first starting out, trial and error is about the only way most people have available. After a while, you start to learn the characteristics of each mic in your locker and you can pretty much narrow it down to 2 or three mics to try when you hear someone's voice. I guess "experience" is as good a word as any.

Part of the problem lies in the fact that almost any condenser mic sounds wonderful the first time you hear it against an average dynamic mic, but it's only after a while that many new recordists will start to hear the flaws in many condenser mics, like screechy top end peaks (which new people initially hear as "more detailed").

Time, critical listen, experience, and detachment will all help you hear what's really happening. Compare your vocal tracks to professional cuts that you like to hear the differences, and then experiment with all the mics you have to see if you can get closer to the sounds you really like.

You'll know you're getting closer when you listen to a record and instead of hearing the music, your ear will pick out a key part and you'll think, "Wow, how'd they do that?". Even closer is when you hear a new record, and you KNOW how they did that.

When I listen to a CD (that people want to sound similar to), I can usually figure out what mics I'll need to duplicate the vocal sounds, the drum miking and placement, eq, compression, and bass and guitar techniques in about 2 minutes, but that's based on about 40 years of doing this stuff. The most difficult problem you'll have is losing your preconceptions and just listening.

As far as what mic is best for your voice, here's a trick you can use to save some bucks and narrow things down quicker than the trial and error method:

Book some time in a local studio and make sure the studio has a good range of mic choices. IF you can, try to book "down time" (time when the studio isn't normally busy) at a reduced rate.

Have the engineer cut about one minute each of you singing into every vocal mic they have. Make sure the engineer keeps track of which mic goes with which track. Have the engineer burn a CD of all the tracks, and tell him to mix up the order, but make a key of which mic is on which track. DON'T LOOK at the sheet!!. Take the CD and the folded key sheet home. Put the "key" sheet in a drawer without looking at it.

Take 3 sheets of blank paper and put track numbers on them. Listen to the CD and pick out which tracks sound best on your voice and mark those choices in order on one of the blank sheets. Fold that sheet up and put it away.

Do the same thing about a week or more later, mark your selections, fold and put that sheet away, too. Don't look at the key sheet or the previous sheet.

Wait at least another week and do the listening test again, and mark your selections. Now go get the other sheets, and the key sheet. Did you find one track that you consistently liked in every test? Get the "key" sheet and that's the mic you want to get, or at least find something similar.
 
Harvey, if someone tests mikes at a studio, wouldn't it be a good idea to
bring in your mic pre-amp unless the studio has the same one as you do?
(Assuming you'll be using the "selected" microphone at home)
 
While it's not a "bad" idea to bring your own mic pre for the test, be very careful, since most inexpensive mic pres are known for their significant coloration. If you're deciding on a lifetime investment in a big mic (or spending a $1,000 or so), it doesn't make a lot of sense to evalute it thru a $150 mic pre.
 
thanks for the reply harvey,
what are your experiences with brauner? are they comparable to other mics in this price range? i like the idea of having my mic being hand built in a german barn:)
 
Dirk's mics are wonderful sounding mics - beautiful to look at, and highly detailed sound. I had the privilage of using both the Brauner and Soundfield mics to record live music at their distributor's booth at the AES show in San Francisco a few years ago. The Brauner mics are among the finest microphones built today, imho.
 
thanks for the info harvey, i really appreciate your great advice here on this forum!
cheers,
scriabin
 
Would it help if we did a test like that to have some backing tracks to mix in so were not getting a solo'd impression? It would make it a little more complicated. Maybe bring some pre-recorded tracks to sing to?
 
Harvey,
I am not shure if this question fits in here, but I would so much apreciate an answer, so please forgive:
I don't have much oportunity to find a studio around here with many different (higher end) mics. But after experimenting with what is available i narrowed it down to the 414b uls. What other mics would you recomend to check with similar sound and maybe even more transparency (*not* HF raise)? Like scriabin, I am not looking for a cheap mic, but something that I won't outgrow in the next couple of years.
thanks in advance
Harald
 
That's a difficult question, since the microphone's coloration tends to change, drastically, depending on the singer, the song, and the key. A good example is the test I did on the Neumann TLM103 when it first came out. On a Martin D28HD, it sounded absolutely wonderful, until the guitarist put on a capo and changed keys. It sounded horrible. Overtones came thru that were downright ugly sounding. I had to move the mic drastically and go in with a parametric equalizer to get anything even slightly usable.

It's the same thing with singers. The AKG C3000 was unusable for most applications I had, but was absolutely gorgeous on this one singer. The AKG 414 BULS (?) didn't work well for me, although I really liked all the pattern options. I had the chance to buy one from a local dealer brand new for $500 and after testing it for a couple of weeks, I passed on the deal. That doesn't make it a bad mic, just the wrong choice for my needs. There have been times that my Marshall V67G beat my Neumann TLM103, and times my Marshall V77 beat my RCA 77DX, at 1/5th the cost.

I tend to lump most of the AKG condensers in with the Audio Technicas, and the Rode NT stuff. If you like "that sound", also listen to the B.L.U.E. mics and the Brauner. You can probably find a good deal ($650 or less) on an AKG 414 by searching ebay.

I'm sorry I can't be of more help, but finding "the perfect mic" for an individual is a lot harder than it seems on the surface. If you read the big thread, you'll find I mention that the published curves don't always show the peaks that a single note can excite, and that's the main problem. At the wrong note, sometimes even the most wonderful mic in the world can sound crappy.
 
Thank you for your answer,
I have never thought of changing the songs key if it sounds bad trough a certain (LD) mic, but that's a perfectly logic idea! I will try this today! And of course did I follow the mic tread, live is too short to miss oportunities like that!
BTW: from your experience, what mic was used for Freddie Hubbard's recordings on GRP? It is so distinct from his Blue note sound (where they seem to have used ribbons), on GRP he has the most incredible trumpet sound IMHO.
 
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