Check Out my TubePre sample

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Check Out my TubePre sample. Opinions?

I used a Presonus TubePre (drive around 12o'clock) to record a double track accoustic guitar track for a piece I'm working on. I like to record the same guitar track twice and pan for a good stereo effect. At the link below is a 30 sec. sample of a passage (I looped it twice for this purpose, you'll hear a click at loop interval) with only the accoustic guitars. http://homepage.mac.com/a.daleclark/SongDemo/FileSharing6.html The rest of the tracks are muted (you can hear a bit of the beats bleeding through my headphones). I actually like the way the guitars came out. They add a nicetexture to entire track. Remember, I have added reverb, some EQ and compression to accomadate the entire mix with other tracks. If this was a solo guitar piece, I would have mixed, eq'd etc.. differently. The effects here sit well with entire track. I'll post when finished. I just wanted to share the kinds of sounds one can get with a cheap piece of gear with a bit of tweaking. I used an ADK-A51 mic, presonus Firebox interface, Presonus TubePre going into Logic 6. The guitar was an Epiphone EJ200 (jumbo). I recorded this in my bedroom/Den low budget studio. Mic position between soundhole and 12th fret (approx 7 inches back). I'm going for an "All Things Must Pass" wall of sound meets U2/Coldplay type sound for this track. Very crispy yet haunting and dark. http://homepage.mac.com/a.daleclark/SongDemo/FileSharing6.htmlRemember, I'm not a true guitar player. I'm a drummer who can play basics on other instruments and has to live with using drum loops and samples since I live in a condo.
 
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I'm really interested in the new Presonus ADL600 tube preamp. Presonus makes decent gear for the money. M-Audio has also stepped it up a bit from what I've heard as well. I may purchase a DMP3 pre.
 
Sounds good, the only thing I hear that is a issue is that the two guitar tracks are noticably out of beat with each other at a few spots. Nice though.
 
Good observation. It's a little trick I do which is hardley noticable when full fix is on. When played in the entire mix, it sounds nice. At first pass, I record first accoustic guitar to the main rythym track (drum loop, bass, etc). The second pass, I mute everything and play along to the first pass of guitar that I recorded. It gives a little bit of "players strumming together around a circle" feel. Also, it keeps the "pick strum" just a bit out of sync which works nice when panned in stereo and listening through headphones. Also, I'll properly tune the guitar for the first pass and not retune for the second pass (unless something major happens to the tuning). If you do quite a bit of playing and retakes during the first pass, the guitar will detune slightly. The detuning is just enough for a fuller sound (as if 2 differnt players tuned their guitars). I'll also change mic position a bit as well. I have another accoustic guitar and use it sometimes for the second pass.
 
Sounds like it's missing everything under 300 hz except for a little boom. All mids, no body.
Just my opinion, FWIW.
 
It's an accoustic. Accoustic is by it's very nature mostly mids...
 
Not enough 'thrum' for me. I lake acoustic guitars that sound like you're playing an oak tree.
 
puffin said:
Not enough 'thrum' for me. I lake acoustic guitars that sound like you're playing an oak tree.
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Now that would be interesting to hear.

I wish someone would post examples of that.
 
amra said:
It's an accoustic. Accoustic is by it's very nature mostly mids...
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Must be Nashville tuning - no wound EAD strings ;)
These are acoustic and I think they have the 'body' that seems to be lacking in the tube example.
Anything on this page:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=138077
Lonely Rag on this page:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=296237
Rag for Ry on this page:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=147437

That's all I have time for but there are hundreds of examples on soundclick.
I would also value Timithy Lawler's opinion if he's around.
 
Is this like a dual or something now? ? ?


I think I'm having flashbacks of that Steve Vai movie with Ralph Machio.
 
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Wow, lots of opinions on my "cheap" acoustic guitar recorded with a "cheap" mic and a "cheap" pre. Remember, the eQ and effects you hear is what blended in with my entire mix the best. I'll try to post a "non-effect" version of same clip.
 
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Remember, the eQ and effects you hear is what blended in with my entire mix the best.
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It sounds like it would be very mix-friendly, but I'd be really careful of the "boom boom" stuff.

And you might want to try a better pre, too, next time. :D Ebay that thing. Someone will take it off your hands, I'm sure.
 
chessrock said:
Is this like a dual or something now? ? ?


I think I'm having flashbacks of that Steve Vai movie with Ralph Machio.
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that movie kicked ass....i believe it was called "crossroads"..but i could be wrong....nice playing and sounds good to me!
 
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