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[Downside Studio]

oh, and if you know other cool words like....principality.....please let me know...I want to impress you'all in the next posts

 

[ausrock]

Larry,

Please check my reply to your PM.

 

[alanhyatt]

this isn't helped when sales staff ar a major retailer here try and tell people the mics are made in Germany, and then change their story to "they are designed" in Germany. Personally, I think it reeks of misrepresentation and on principle.....will never purchase ADK.

My Loss?..............I doubt it.

Chris,

This was the case we talked about before. What dealers are saying about the origins of some mics, and what the manufacture reprsents the origins to be on their web sites simply by name alone. This can be confusing.

For example, see the following links to the ADK site:
Click Here

ADK Logo...German or Chinese Click Here

Now none of this has anything to do with the sound or build of a mic, but merely some representations of the builders of that mic. The question then is, if it is a big deal or not to lead people to think it is of a German or Austrian pedigree. While it is now established it is not, then why still promote that logo? Oh well, each to his own.

So yes, this is still a bit confusing at best, kind of like his mention of him being a Good Christian, yet on the other hand he will kick his dealers asses if they say something wrong. Is kicking ass a good Christian behavior? ...Hell if I know...

 

[jet-rocker]

Alan: For someone that throws so many stones, you're digging pretty deep to find something that sticks.

So far: ADK DOES have mic disigners, and their mics are not just off the shelf designs. A large part of the rumors to the opposite about ADK, stem directly from you....

Personally I think you owe the man and apology, and could learn something about restraint, by the civil way Larry has conducted himself with you.

-J

 

[jet-rocker]

Alan: I'm proud of you. You didn't even try to tear me a new one.

-J

 

[alanhyatt]

Alan: I'm proud of you. You didn't even try to tear me a new one.

-J

I leave the Ass Kicking to others....

 

[ausrock]

For the record,

Larry sent me a PM around the same time he replied, partly to me in this thread.............I have replied to his PM and "stilled the waters" before this developed into a shit fight.

Doesn't mean that I have changed my stance though.

 

[mgraffeo]

Frankly, I have to agree with ausrock. Labeling your mic with a "German-sounding" name seems at least slightly misleading. How many companies ending in "deutschekraft" do you know of operating out of china, the US, etc?

However, all's fair in Love and War, and sales is definitely a war. If this is a competitive advantage, than go for it. Capitalism is what the US was founded upon. Of course, we don't have to like capitalizing on those who don't do extensive research. It's not like the mic says "made in Germany" on it, or any other lie. It's just misleading...

Where I do differ from ausrock's opinion is on the "I will never purchase an ADK mic". If the mic sounds good, I'd buy it. As is my opinion on any "crappy Chinese mic", or any other mic. Isn't that what we keep preaching here????

-mg

 

[alanhyatt]

I said it before, and I will say it again, it does not matter what brand or what price you pay for a mic. A good mic is a mic you use and like no matter how much or how little you pay for it. A bad mic is a mic you don't use and don't like...no matter how much or how little you paid for it.

Opinions are so varied on this subject it will make your head spin.

I hear what you are saying Ausrock..... I feel the same way.

 

[ausrock]

For better or worse I take the same stance with Rode who have always avoided mentioning the source of major components and who's CEO can't even get his story straight..........he has (in print) been known to contradict himself..........but of course, people will believe what they wish.

Unfortunately. snake oil salesmen will always be with us.

 

[eeldip]

However, all's fair in Love and War, and sales is definitely a war. If this is a competitive advantage, than go for it. Capitalism is what the US was founded upon. Of course, we don't have to like capitalizing on those who don't do extensive research. It's not like the mic says "made in Germany" on it, or any other lie. It's just misleading...

except intentionally misleading the consumer is not capitalism. it is technique used to control and manipulate the market, it is anti-competitive.

 

[Larry Villella]

If anyone was told by any of my dealers at any time that ADK was made in Germany, shame on them. If anyone who knows me personally isn't finding this thread a hoot, I'd be just plain flabbergasted. I don't expect to change anyone who has made their mind up. If you have made your mind up, I respect that!

My Great Grandfather was Dutch, not German. If you look closely there is no "S" in the name. But like Generis, it's really an inside joke for us. Subtle I admit. And certainly just a made up name that Brian and I thought up late one night. No marketing spin. Just a "Concept" - a concept of trying to Replicate some very expensive Condenser Mics. And Yes: I think we have clearly captured the Sonic Qualities of some great Vintage German and Austrian mics. You either agree or not. If you choose not to listen to our mic because you don't like the name, it's my loss!!


ADK is just a bunch of folks living in the woods in NW Washington State who like to play and record music. Acoustic and Mic lovers.
What you see is what you get. Great mics, seat of the pants marketing. We do the best we can in a world of Giants!!!

If our dry sense of irony is lost on everyone, I apologize!

I would be ask: judge me by my customer service and my mics.
If you don't like the name, and you never try ADK, again: my
lack of market savvy. And My Loss. I take full blame for it!

I am a mic lover and musican; and only a reluctant CEO.

YET: I submit we were the first mic out of China to sound European. Or one of the pioneers of this at very least!

So if we took a European name for our brand, I can't unring the bell. Over a year ago we took the "formal name" off our logo, and became - simply - ADK. So if my Dutch name offended anyone, sorry. What can I say, to err is human. And I am.

Sincerely,

Larry Villella, ADK Microphones (dba AudioDumpfKauft)
www.adkmic.com larry@adkmic.com

 

[Meshuggah]

I'll just add that the ADK A51SC is WAAAY up on my shopping list...

Nice to see you around Larry!

 

[tdukex]

Do I care where mics are made or what someone calls their company or what they name their mics? No.

Do 99% of the end users (or 99% of anyone else in the world) care? No.

Is it human nature to always try and find something to criticize, argue over, or complain about? Yes.

Y'all are out of line here; y'all are wrong, wrong, wrong; and I am tired of your bickering.

But please continue; it is also human nature to enjoy even the most banal bickerings.

Question #1: is the phrase "banal bickerings" redundant?

Question #2: is it an affront to germanic purity to accent a Middle English noun (bickerings) with a French adjective (banal)? Is it a misrepresentation?

Question #3: does anyone even have a clue what Question #2 means? Because I don't.

 

[ausrock]

FIIK, FIIC.

 

[tdukex]

Fart!

 

[ausrock]

EEEEEWWWWW...................please leave the room next time

 

[jet-rocker]

Larry, I'll join Messugah in welcoming you.

Glad to have you around. I don't see what all the fuss is about (compared to ALL the crap that Alan has gotten off the hook over).

-J

 

[Mr Funk]

I think people should give ADK mics a listen. I believe that a few professional studios are using them! And loving them!

Why don't some of you pro's contact Larry and see if he can help you get a listen to some?

 

[Flatpicker]

I wasn’t going to get involved, and Lord knows I don’t have the time, but I value Larry’s participation in this forum too much to sit here and say nothing.

As for the ADK’s “German-ish” name, isn’t every LDC mic some sort of copy of the “German” design? Look’s to me like every LDC marketing/manufacturer has attempted to copy the German design and sound, and I fail to see that a name, German, Dutch, or whatever as being misleading. And, especially since the name has been long removed, looks to me like ADK is going out of their way NOT to mislead people instead of the opposite. Come on, guys, you’re really nit-picking at nothing here

Speaking of this, I was very disappointed when Larry was replying to an ADK question a while back and Brent Casey piped in and made all kinds of fun of Larry about the German name thing. I realize that some camaraderie might take place between you guys, but this appeared to be just plain rude. To me, things like this makes Studio Projects look bad and ADK look good.

In this thread, Alan reminds me of my tomcat hissing and peeing all over the back yard when another male cat comes around. I hope Larry stays around for the sake of this forum. As a whole, we NEED other mic manufacturer’s opinions and input here, not just Studio Project’s.

Now, before Alan, Brent, and all the other SP guy’s start jumping on me, I’ll say that I own two different models of their mics, but do not own an ADK (at least not yet, anyway). I’ve enjoyed Brent’s expertise, humor, and ramblings, and even spoke with Justin at the NAMM show last summer, where I plan to return this year and hopefully get to meet the rest of the SP guys. I’m just saying that mic companies look much more honest and professional when they let their great products do the talking (just like Larry was saying about his – if you like it, fine, and if you don’t like it, fine) instead of slinging mud at the competition. Likewise, we need more than one mic company represented here to balance things out.

Speaking of the last Summer NAMM, I also enjoyed getting to meet Larry. When I ask him about Studio Projects, he spoke nothing but good things about them. When someone compliments the competition I tend to view them as being more honest then I would otherwise.

Of course, this is all MHO, and the last time I cut myself I bled red, white, and blue, so I believe I’m entitled to it.

Glad to see you posting again, Larry.