Changes Ahead For NowhereRadio?

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Dammit, Jim, Shut Up!
Dear All,

I just got this in my e-mail from Waldo at Nowhereradio. Looks like we might not have a free spot there to put up our stuff for long. I suppose I'll become a paying user if that happens. Anyway, here is the communication I received:

The company who currently sells the ad space for NWR has stated that we can no longer opt out of their pop-up banner campaigns, and that tomorrow (how nice of them to give no notice), they will be switching pop-ups on.
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I will not have pop-ups and unders on the NWR account, as I have already dealt with lowsy applications and miss-representative ads in inappropriate places, not to mention 2-3 pop-ups per page. _At that time they said they couldn't do anything to control frequency, or which ads would appear, I could only opt out, and take a cut in the income. _So I opted out.
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Well, now they say pop-ups, or nothing. _So, NWR has lost 1/4 of its income. _If you know of anyone who would like to place ads directly on NWR, let me know, there will be a ton of spots open. _Otherwise, I'm going to have to shut down all free users as they will no longer be covered even partially by advertising.
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Ad rates are cheap, we're not here to make a million, just survive. _Let me know,
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waldo@nowhereradio.com



I don't have anything to advertise, but I'd sure like to see Nowhere keep going one way or another. Any thoughts?
 
I hope I don't get in trouble for saying this but a full year at nowhere costs $27.50 Anyone that won't kick that out should be ashamed. Have you noticed how fast Waldo attends to problems or questions? And you don't have to go there........he watches homerec to catch things quick.

He ( and Dragon) deserve and have earned our support. I've paid and I think I'm gonna contribute to Homerec too. It's ridiculously cheap for what we get from both sites.
 
So, there is only ONE company that will sell ad space without pop ups? And if there is more than one, Waldo needs help finding them? I'm asking questions out of ignorance, not at all trying to sound snooty. The possibility of such a small pool of non-popup internet ad companies strikes me as odd.


P.S. I tried to send my thought on the nowhere forum first but, I couldn't log in.

I hope to help,

Theron.
 
Lt Bob--Of course, you are absolutely right! I have only posted a few things there, just to see how it went. I have also enjoyed the MP3's of others there, though. For less than $28 bucks a year, thats a deal. Better than my GP subscription, which tells me next to nothing these days.

I just don't need any more space than he allows for the free guys--at least right now. So, I think they could even do a two tiered rate. Of course, with that bigger tier, I could post a whole album... Hmmm...

At the rate its going, there are gonna be a lot of "Pay" sites in the future.
 
It's a small pool of non-popup advertisers that will advertise on a small internet company. Many advertisers try to place their ads on bigger sites with more viewers. As much as we regard nowhere as important...........it's still a relatively small site.
 
crawdad said:
At the rate its going, there are gonna be a lot of "Pay" sites in the future.
Click to expand...
That's probably true..................................Bastards. :D
 
Well, there are only a couple I'd pay for at this point. Homerecording and Nowhere.

Waldo, I see you're here tonight. Any comments?
 
Why is this bbs free and it thrives just fine. I'm just brainstorming inside my naive shell and thought there might be a way to keep Nowhere free on some of the same streams "no pun intended" that this site is free.
 
I don't think we should discuss it here, I've gotten in issues with Dragon in the past. I'll make this reply, but will not discuss it here further.

Theron, I don't know that you have a forum account set up, the forums are seperate from NWR. If you want to post on the forums, you'll have to sign up on them (just click on register). I haven't had time to modify the code to work with the rest of NWR yet.

HomeRec is gonna do just fine, as it's main base is text, which doesn't use much bandwidth. The major expense at NWR is the fact that it uses so much bandwidth due to the size of mp3's. With a site like this, it's easy to have an ad every, lets say, 20kB of bandwidth, on NWR, I can only pull of one ad every 3-4MB. Bandwidth sits at about $5/GB, ads pay out less than 0.20 per 1000 views, so 1000 x 3MB = ~3GB = $15...

Basically, we're talking dozens of GB a day in transfer.

Lt. Bob is right in some respects, NWR isn't as big as mp3.com etc., but is considerably busy for its age, and the fact that I've never advertised for it, and don't have staff nor funding. Ad agency companies that'll allow no-popup and non-spam type advertising are few and far between. I've gone through 7 in two years, each wanting to 'change' their rules/rates, etc. Each one pulled some BS on me, and I went elsewhere.

I'd rather deal with it myself these days, the ad companies get 50% or more in some instances, which is outrageous being as they really don't have to do much other than fill ad spots.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do at this point, I recieved the notice about 7PM, and haven't had time to think it through fully.

Right now, it looks as though filling the ad spots myself will be the best thing, so I'm offering extremely competitive ad rates.

Anything further, please discus at NWR, don't want to piss Dragon off.

W.
 
Waldo--OK. I'll consider this thread closed and any discussion can happen on Nowhere's site. I appreciate your position and your feelings on this matter.

My sole reason for this thread was simply to make your situation known as it may affect our MP3 forum here and its users. That mission has been achieved. I hope all works out well.
 
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