Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
well, I know that after that Hall of Fame thing I did last year one of the local stations in BR started putting that band's stuff in it's rotation. we definitely don't have any of it up for downloads anywhere.
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Greg_L
Banned
I've had my crap played through online radio stations and old school airwave stations. I had to give them all an actual CD.
Steenamaroo
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Maybe that's just how it is then. Thanks.(and you, Bob)
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Greg_L
Banned
Well big-time mega clear-channel radio stations might be different. They suck though so who cares what they do.
Steenamaroo
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Well big-time mega clear-channel radio stations might be different. They suck though so who cares what they do.
My thoughts exactly.
I guess I wasn't sure because most of our plays are BBC and the BBC probably have the biggest and smallest stations in the country.
I'd love to get behind the scenes and know if Radio 2 (massive) have the same systems as Foyle or some small regional station.
We got a few hundred plays last year on a medium sized local based station.
We sent proper printed CDs with ISRC codes and printed information. They still didn't reported it though.
I duno how much more you can do.
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Greg_L
Banned
My thoughts exactly.
I guess I wasn't sure because most of our plays are BBC and the BBC probably have the biggest and smallest stations in the country.
I'd love to get behind the scenes and know if Radio 2 (massive) have the same systems as Foyle or some small regional station.
We got a few hundred plays last year on a medium sized local based station.
We sent proper printed CDs with ISRC codes and printed information. They still didn't reported it though.
I duno how much more you can do.
Pirate Radio is all I'd care to be played on. They still do that over there?
Steenamaroo
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I guess so.
Cos it's not my music and it's 'business', I just wanna get paid per spin.
Cos it's not my music and it's 'business', I just wanna get paid per spin.
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jonny deep
Disappointing Member
I guess so.
Cos it's not my music and it's 'business', I just wanna get paid per spin.
A few years back my dad won a competition at the local radio station (Compass FM in Grimsby). We went in to collect the prize and the DJ who was currently on answered the door and showed us the studio while a few songs were playing. All their music was in MP2 files (he said they were getting upgraded to MP3 in the near future - this was around 2002ish maybe
) and he accessed them via a touch-screen. He seemed very proud that you just jabbed at the screen and another song came on instantly (only to be heard in the studio, he wasn't broadcasting this chopping and changing between songs).
fat_fleet
Swollen Member
A few years back my dad won a competition at the local radio station (Compass FM in Grimsby). We went in to collect the prize and the DJ who was currently on answered the door and showed us the studio while a few songs were playing. All their music was in MP2 files (he said they were getting upgraded to MP3 in the near future - this was around 2002ish maybe
Yeah I ran the board for an FM station that covered local college basketball inserting the promo spots. There were a couple DJs that had specific shows, but other than that their regular music programming was computer sequenced. I'd just let myself in and more often than not there would be no one there. I'd stop the stream, run a couple spots, handle the game telecast, restart the computer stream and leave. And this was like 15 years ago. College/independent radio still handles physical media obviously, but most play MP3s too.
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NeilE
New member
Hi all - joining in late
I haven't got a high end system, yet, so the difference in quality between high MP3 and CD is hardly noticeable. I only download single tracks that aren't available on CD or I don't want the whole CD anyway. Otherwise I buy CDs. If you 'buy' a download you are, in fact, just buying a licence to play that file. As far as I can make out Apple (iTunes) only licence you to play it on the device it was downloaded to. If you get a CD you own it. Bruce Willis is going to court about this as he has collected a huge amount of downloaded music and wants to pass it on to his kids when he dies. Licence expires on his death so the files should be deleted.
Anyway... I like to have the whole package. Art, lyrics, musicians involved etc. All goes back to listening to new albums over and over while reading the sleeve. Just old fashioned I guess.
I haven't got a high end system, yet, so the difference in quality between high MP3 and CD is hardly noticeable. I only download single tracks that aren't available on CD or I don't want the whole CD anyway. Otherwise I buy CDs. If you 'buy' a download you are, in fact, just buying a licence to play that file. As far as I can make out Apple (iTunes) only licence you to play it on the device it was downloaded to. If you get a CD you own it. Bruce Willis is going to court about this as he has collected a huge amount of downloaded music and wants to pass it on to his kids when he dies. Licence expires on his death so the files should be deleted.
Anyway... I like to have the whole package. Art, lyrics, musicians involved etc. All goes back to listening to new albums over and over while reading the sleeve. Just old fashioned I guess.
rayc
retroreprobate
I've bought more than a dozen CDs in the last year. About 1/3 of those from HR denizens.
I'd buy vinyl if it's available. I still buy LOTS of 2nd hand vinyl anyway.
I've moved away from MP3s where I can - but to be honest I've only bought 1 download album & that wasn't a great success due to the bitrate & download speeds.
I'm happy enough with FLAC: I bought a portable media player than does FLAC & WAV very happily.
I HOPE to do a CD this year. I've done the recording, mixing, had the mastering done & even the DDP.
Art work & a lack of self belief are holding me back at present. I have planned the artwork, have the originals, have the text, have the software.
I've done the research into the distribution/reproduction (thanks to Greg & Ido for the pointers re that).
The tangible object, the sleeve notes. lyrics etc make up part of the enjoyment/ritual of listening for me so I want to get those last bits right, right, right.
Poor Bruce, he'll have to Die Hard WITH his ipud as his grave goods.
I'd buy vinyl if it's available. I still buy LOTS of 2nd hand vinyl anyway.
I've moved away from MP3s where I can - but to be honest I've only bought 1 download album & that wasn't a great success due to the bitrate & download speeds.
I'm happy enough with FLAC: I bought a portable media player than does FLAC & WAV very happily.
I HOPE to do a CD this year. I've done the recording, mixing, had the mastering done & even the DDP.
Art work & a lack of self belief are holding me back at present. I have planned the artwork, have the originals, have the text, have the software.
I've done the research into the distribution/reproduction (thanks to Greg & Ido for the pointers re that).
The tangible object, the sleeve notes. lyrics etc make up part of the enjoyment/ritual of listening for me so I want to get those last bits right, right, right.
Poor Bruce, he'll have to Die Hard WITH his ipud as his grave goods.
BroKen_H
Re-member
I stopped buying physical media a couple of years ago, for two main reasons. 1) I only want a couple of songs from most (and I mean almost all) CD's. and 2) I already have a couple thousand CD's and don't really have room to store more.
BUT, I really notice the difference in sound between my downloads (especially 128k ones) and my lossless rips. Now it doesn't make a lot of difference listening on my phone, but on my stereo or my computer (runs through a Bose Companion 5) there is a huge difference. Having the sub separating the bass from the stream gives a huge boost to the clarity of the rest. From a strictly audiophile standpoint, even CD's aren't perfect, just crisp. There is an "experience" to listening to vinyl, but also a lot of work to maintain the vinyl, the equipment, etc.
As far as having the musicians and lyrics and etc. that's nice if I'm in the living room listening to a beloved CD (which is EXTREMELY rare, but otherwise, I'm sitting at my computer where the internet will give me WAY more info, or on the move listening through my phone's buds and don't have time or access to see the info. Most digital DLs come with the digital booklet now, anyway.
For the everyday listening (when you're just "hearing" the music in the background while you game or work or travel or whatever) the downloads work fine. But when you're sitting in the listening room and you just want to HEAR something extraordinary, there's nothing like good old vinyl, but a well done CD takes a close second...
BUT, I really notice the difference in sound between my downloads (especially 128k ones) and my lossless rips. Now it doesn't make a lot of difference listening on my phone, but on my stereo or my computer (runs through a Bose Companion 5) there is a huge difference. Having the sub separating the bass from the stream gives a huge boost to the clarity of the rest. From a strictly audiophile standpoint, even CD's aren't perfect, just crisp. There is an "experience" to listening to vinyl, but also a lot of work to maintain the vinyl, the equipment, etc.
As far as having the musicians and lyrics and etc. that's nice if I'm in the living room listening to a beloved CD (which is EXTREMELY rare, but otherwise, I'm sitting at my computer where the internet will give me WAY more info, or on the move listening through my phone's buds and don't have time or access to see the info. Most digital DLs come with the digital booklet now, anyway.
For the everyday listening (when you're just "hearing" the music in the background while you game or work or travel or whatever) the downloads work fine. But when you're sitting in the listening room and you just want to HEAR something extraordinary, there's nothing like good old vinyl, but a well done CD takes a close second...
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
I'm definitely a vinyl guy (6000+ and growing) and a surprisingly large number of even new releases still comes out on vinyl.
For background listening though, I just put on a Sirius channel and let 'er stream.
Doesn't sound that great and , for that matter, I prefer the sound of vinyl over CDs but for background music it doesn't matter.
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jmatt19
music business forever
I make CD's still....for all kinds of projects. In response to Greg_L, it feels right to hold something in your hands, whether vinly, cassette, Cd, or anything else for that matter from the recording world. I will tell you that I have many vinyls I probably will never get rid of unless some very wealthy collector makes me an offer I can't refuse. The reason why I say this is because most people in the recording industry have the same conviction, even if they are on cutting edge of technology for distribution. BTW, one of my collections is all the Beatles albums recorded in Europe as well as USA (1 of each album). They have never been opened. I bought another set to listen to back then. It gave me many musical ideas to think about and try to emulate as a writer/arranger today. (something I think you don't find today from composers in the pop world.......that is for another discussion) Don't get me wrong; I love the tech advances.
BTW, the entire Beatles collection at prices then cost a total,of about $200.00.....the unopened set, by some appraisals, it is worth somewhere in the mid 5 figure range. I also have about 200 original Deutshce Grammophone, Telfunken, Mobile Fidelity half-speed masters, London etc. of classical and jazz. (many out of print and never remastered) How do you think someone would want to find one of those historic recordings if not for keeping the different forms of media alive, not to mention great album art that one cannot get on the net.
BTW, the entire Beatles collection at prices then cost a total,of about $200.00.....the unopened set, by some appraisals, it is worth somewhere in the mid 5 figure range. I also have about 200 original Deutshce Grammophone, Telfunken, Mobile Fidelity half-speed masters, London etc. of classical and jazz. (many out of print and never remastered) How do you think someone would want to find one of those historic recordings if not for keeping the different forms of media alive, not to mention great album art that one cannot get on the net.
TASCAM MAN
New member
dobro
Well-known member
Really? You sure about that? I've downloaded a couple of things, and now they're on my computer, on my backup drive, and on my device. How is iTunes gonna stop me backing it up forever?
Manslick
Road
I saw a crack head slit her wrist with a broken cd. Not so useless after all I suppose. Go cds - go.
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NeilE
New member
Yep - I'm sure about the licence. Have heard about iTunes - don't use Apple. If you purchase the licence and break the rules whether iTunes can stop you or not isn't the point. You have purchased a licence and by doing all that other stuff you are in breach of the terms. Is all I'm sayin'. If people were worried about licencing and stuff there would be no illegal download situation, or as we called it in the olden days 'puttin' a mates vinyl on cassette'.
Lt. Bob
Spread the Daf!
actually it was ruled legal to put vinyl on cassette
Steenamaroo
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It's legal to have one hard backup of any purchased audio, right? Or was that just one of those myths that went around?