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RWhite
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Well this is embarrassing, usually I can figure out almost any Windoze issue, but this one has me stumped. I'm hoping it's something stupid I overlooked, and someone out there will read this and know it.
OK here's the background. I do all of my "serious" recording in my basement studio. But I keep my general-purpose PC upstairs and I also use this for doing things like transferring albums to CDR. Until recently I had no problems at all. My setup in this "second studio" is a small mixer (Behringer 802, no snickers please) which has it's Tape Out connectors fed into the sound cards Line In. The mixer's Control Room Out feeds a small amp and speakers. The mixer's line ins include: a stereo receiver (which has turntable/cassette/VCR/CD fed into it); a return from the sound cards line out; and a feed from the computers ATI All-In-Wonder card (basically a cable TV tuner). This setup has worked fine, so long as you keep the Line-In level Muted under the "Playback" volume control (otherwise you have a feedback loop with the sound card).
I did mucho recording with this gear under Windows 98. I recently went through a rather hellish Windows XP update (posted here in another thread) but now have the XP system humming along fine. At the same time I updated to XP I switched from a SB Live card to a SB Audigy card. I have used the Audigy for playing games and playing back .WAV files with no problems. So two nights ago I attempt some recording for the first time since the upgrade, just recording some stuff off the radio. When I set up Sound Forge I see that there is no input being shown. Now I have not changed any hardware connections; my mixer confirms that it is seeing the source signal, but the computer sees nothing.
In the course of troubleshooting I have tried the following:
* Tried the dippy Sound Recorder program built into XP, which likewise sees no signal coming in.
* Bypassed the mixer and fed the signal directly into the card. The signal comes back into the mixer from the line out, which tells me the signal IS getting into the card and is being passed back through to the line-out.
* Verified in both Control Panel / Audio and Sound Forge itself that the SB Audigy is selected as the preferred device for both recording and playback.
* Tried every possible fader combination under the system volume control. When Line-In is selected as the recording input, Sound Forge shows some background noise (about –69db) coming in, with any other source setting it shows nothing.
* Tried rolling back to the original driver, but that is a Big Sorry (actually I have yet to see any example anywhere of this new XP feature actually working)
I finally concluded that my Audigy card must be defective, and kick myself for buying an OEM card (since neither the retailer or Creative are going to do dick for me about replacing it). So I give up and re-install my old SB Live card.
Of course the same damn thing happens. Like with the Audigy, it plays sounds fine, but the system sees NO sound coming in through the Line-In. Unlike the Audigy, the SB Live does not “pass through” any Line-In sound through to the Line-out.
The only wild card I can see in this deal is that I have an ATI All-In-Wonder video card, which has the ability to record video and audio. A conflict between this card and the sound card is a definite possibility, but there is nothing I have found in the Windows system to indicate that such a conflict is happening. And of course this same hardware combination worked fine under Windows 98.
At this point I am considering sacrificing a goat and spreading it’s entrails around the PC to drive out evil spirits. Does anyone out there have any other ideas? I have to believe it is software related. I am continuing to look through Creative's site, have not found anything yet, will check ATI’s site next.
OK here's the background. I do all of my "serious" recording in my basement studio. But I keep my general-purpose PC upstairs and I also use this for doing things like transferring albums to CDR. Until recently I had no problems at all. My setup in this "second studio" is a small mixer (Behringer 802, no snickers please) which has it's Tape Out connectors fed into the sound cards Line In. The mixer's Control Room Out feeds a small amp and speakers. The mixer's line ins include: a stereo receiver (which has turntable/cassette/VCR/CD fed into it); a return from the sound cards line out; and a feed from the computers ATI All-In-Wonder card (basically a cable TV tuner). This setup has worked fine, so long as you keep the Line-In level Muted under the "Playback" volume control (otherwise you have a feedback loop with the sound card).
I did mucho recording with this gear under Windows 98. I recently went through a rather hellish Windows XP update (posted here in another thread) but now have the XP system humming along fine. At the same time I updated to XP I switched from a SB Live card to a SB Audigy card. I have used the Audigy for playing games and playing back .WAV files with no problems. So two nights ago I attempt some recording for the first time since the upgrade, just recording some stuff off the radio. When I set up Sound Forge I see that there is no input being shown. Now I have not changed any hardware connections; my mixer confirms that it is seeing the source signal, but the computer sees nothing.
In the course of troubleshooting I have tried the following:
* Tried the dippy Sound Recorder program built into XP, which likewise sees no signal coming in.
* Bypassed the mixer and fed the signal directly into the card. The signal comes back into the mixer from the line out, which tells me the signal IS getting into the card and is being passed back through to the line-out.
* Verified in both Control Panel / Audio and Sound Forge itself that the SB Audigy is selected as the preferred device for both recording and playback.
* Tried every possible fader combination under the system volume control. When Line-In is selected as the recording input, Sound Forge shows some background noise (about –69db) coming in, with any other source setting it shows nothing.
* Tried rolling back to the original driver, but that is a Big Sorry (actually I have yet to see any example anywhere of this new XP feature actually working)
I finally concluded that my Audigy card must be defective, and kick myself for buying an OEM card (since neither the retailer or Creative are going to do dick for me about replacing it). So I give up and re-install my old SB Live card.
Of course the same damn thing happens. Like with the Audigy, it plays sounds fine, but the system sees NO sound coming in through the Line-In. Unlike the Audigy, the SB Live does not “pass through” any Line-In sound through to the Line-out.
The only wild card I can see in this deal is that I have an ATI All-In-Wonder video card, which has the ability to record video and audio. A conflict between this card and the sound card is a definite possibility, but there is nothing I have found in the Windows system to indicate that such a conflict is happening. And of course this same hardware combination worked fine under Windows 98.
At this point I am considering sacrificing a goat and spreading it’s entrails around the PC to drive out evil spirits. Does anyone out there have any other ideas? I have to believe it is software related. I am continuing to look through Creative's site, have not found anything yet, will check ATI’s site next.
