Can You Look Over My Plan

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Walter Tore

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I am about to go the PC recording route. Since I am new to all of this, I thought posting the following and getting your feedback would save me lots of headaches.

My computer is

HP Pavilion with a Intel Celeron processor-667MHz
64MB SDRAM memory(my computer tech added more, can't remember how much)
15.0GB Ultra DMA hard drive
HP CD Writer


Here is my equipment:

Cool Edit 2000
Put my computer in the closet to cut the noise(I do a lot of acoustic stuff)
Get the Delta 44 or 66 soundcard
Use my Yamaha MG10/2 mixing board
http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--YAMMG102

Behringer Virtualizer Pro - for reverb
AT 3035 condensor mic
MXL V57 condensor mic
Core Sounds binauarl mic-requires 2 XLR inputs
http://www.core-sound.com/mics.html


How I record:

I do every live. I compress it with cool edit 2000 and then just burn it to cd. Someone mentioned I can put each mic on a separate track using the outs on my mixing board.


Here are my Questions:

1. How do I connect the mixer outs so that I can use 4 tracks?
2. Can I record dry and then hook the Behringer Virtualizer Pro up to the computer to add reverb to individual tracks? It is much better than the cool edit reverb.
3. can I run long cables from the closet to my mixing board? I will need about 10 feet.
4. Can I use regular guitar cables from the mixer to the Delta?

I may come up with more as I go along. Thanks so MUCH! and Happy New Year! Thanks in advance! You all are a God send!
Walter
 
PS: I have disscussed with my wife, getting a 2nd computer just for music, if the HP isn't gonna cut it. Any reasonably priced suggestions would be welcomed. Walter
 
Walter
Well done for clearing the way ahead with her indoors, because that old Pavillion probably wont last too long as an audio workstation, but it will get you started.

To hook your mixer up to the sound card:
1. Plug your mics into channels 1 - 4 on your mixer
2. Pan channel 1 hard left and channel 2 hard right
3. Connect the L & R mainsouts to inputs 1 & 2 on the delta 44.
4. Connect the insert jacks on channels 3 & 4 to inputs 3 & 4 on the delta 44 (you may need to experiment with this. You don't want the channel 3 & 4 signals getting back to your mainsouts).
5. In your recording software, arm tracks 1 - 4 to record on.
6. Not sure how CE works, but on track 1, select as input Delta Left 1/2, on track 2 select Delta Right 1/2, on track 3 select Delta Left 3/4, on track 4 select Delta Right 3/4.

Each mic should now record on its own track.

To monitor what you're doing,
1. Connect delta 44 outs 1 & 2 to your amp or monitors
2. In the M-Audio Delta Control Panel, Patchbay/Router tab, check the Monitor Mixer button

With regard to your reverb unit, I'm not sure what facilites are available in CE, but yes you should be able to create a submix of 1 or more of your vocal tracks, route them to an aux buss in CE, and then assign it to one of the delta 3 or 4 outs, whack it back out to your mixer & then use an insert out to the Behringer.

Regular unbalanced guitar cables should be fine up to around 20 feet
 
Bulls Hit: Thanks for the detailed reply. So here is where I am at. If I get a new computer with cd burner/monitor/delta 44 soundcard/cables, I will probably be getting close to $1,000.

Since I want to be able to use this set up for a few years at least, here is yet another question. Would I get similar/worse/better sound quality, ease of use, etc, with one of the 4-12 track workstations like the Tascam 788 recording kits? I have a cd burner on my computer, so I may only need the 788.http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7...12588977/g=rec/search/detail/base_pid/240704/

I see this is going for $800 at MF. Can the stuff I record on this be routed without loss of quality, to the computer for mixing/compressing/wave file conversion/storage? If so would I need the delta 44 soundcard to do it? Or can these units do all that? I don't understand all the jargon in this domain.

I don't mean to be going in a lot of different directions, but this reminds me of going into an audio store with plan a, and coming out with plan y. Thanks Walter
 
Do NOT go Dell!!! They use proprietary motherboards (in my experience) with no expandability, at least for the low-mid end stuff. Their only good machines are the ones built for gaming. You should definitely order all your own parts and build your own custom PC. It'll probably be cheaper, and you'll get exactly what you need.
 
If Progger is right and their mobos are proprietary, then stay away from them. (I've no experience with Dell computers.)
You definitely need the expandability of a generic system, so you can upgrade soundcards, add HD's, memory, I/O and other features as you are able.
Also, if something goes wrong with a proprietary part of the system, you're locked into the manufacturer which can cost you big.
 
I just ordered the delta 44 through zzounds! I am going to hook it all up to our current computer and see what happens I get a new one. Thanks for helping me take the plunge! Soon the fun will begin! Walter
 
Roland RPCSI24 Studio Package Pro with Motorized Faders

WOW, right after I ordered the delata 44 I saw this. Does this come with it's own soundcard-similar to the delta? What is the advantage of this unit over my yamaha MG 10/2 mixer? What I liked was all the imputs because I record both my solo and band stuff live-1 take-just like at a gig. I could run all my mics into it and it has phantom power on 6 channels.

Walter


http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--ROLRPCSI24
 
I don't know anything about those units, but it looks pretty useful.

You get a mixer/control surface, an 8 input PCI card and Logic recording software. Motorised faders are nice too. However at $650 that's more than twice what your Yamaha mixer and delta 44 cost together, so you need to ask yourself if you need 8 simultaneous inputs.

It's all academic though as you've already ordered the delta 44. You probably don't want to know this, but you could have got it here http://www.cdbm.com/shop/start.cgi for $30 less.

Edit: Zzsounds have a Price spy email thing, so if you send that in they may give you the $30 refund
 
Bulls Hit: Thanks for the feedback and lower price on the delta 44. I called zzounds and got the order canceled and ordered the delta66. I got it for $269 form zzounds(same price as the midi store). I got the 66 because I want to keep my DAT recorder for when I record the band live on location. Then I can load it to the computer through the 66. Right? Thanks again. Walter
 
That's right. You can record from the DAT into the computer thru the delta 66 s/pdif jacks
 
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