Can I hear some of the Music you guys are Recording with Cakewalk?

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Vox is just verb and a little compression here and there. There are a couple clips using some chorus for added dimension. All of it comes with Sonar. Great App. Worth every penny. Now I need some good mics...
 
Sluice, nice job,how did you record the guitar in Dry and the percussion in the passing and run for your life? All done in sonar! Im Impressed or should I be depressed, maybe Im both Ive got a lot to learn here!
 
ChuckU, I liked your tunes, some superior writing/composition in the God Song. Very cool Vocals too. How are you doing drums?
 
wfaraoni said:
ChuckU, I liked your tunes, some superior writing/composition in the God Song. Very cool Vocals too. How are you doing drums?
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Well, much as I hate to cross-post, I did put this up in the mp3 forum. There's a thread called "I hope Yoko doesn't sue me..." and I went over the drum info pretty in-depth. Let me know if you have any further questions/comments and I'll try to answer.

The other song, "Living in the Red" was done on a VS-880 and mixed in Pro-Tools. Drums on that were triggered with a midi drum controller and sound replaced(like soundfonts) in Pro-Tools.

Thanks for the listen.
 
wfaraoni said:
Sluice, nice job,how did you record the guitar in Dry and the percussion in the passing and run for your life?
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Hi wfaraoni,
The git is actually a doubled part- SM58 on an acoustic guild and a SM57 on a Paul Reed Smith/ Marshall. The drums are composed via Sonar's midi piano roll and sent through a Korg Triton for drum samples, then those audio clips are Eq'd etc.
Thanks for checkin it out.
 
NO!!these cant be midi drums :)

SluiCe, The drums in "run for your life" are probably the best and most realistic Ive heard, I would swear they were real and miced very well at that.
I expected to hear how you set up the mics BUT you created them in MIDI WOW!!!. This is something I really need to know more about because I do not have real drums anymore! I hope you'll Share your knowledge so we can all excel at our percussion efforts.
Im sure that I'm not the only one who would like more specifics on your drum composing.
Here are some questions,Yeah Im a newbie :( .

You said ,played through a korg triton for drum samples. do you mean that you created the basic midi in sonar and then played them through a korg triton using its loadedsoundfonts? Then recorded through a miced amp OR recorded directly? Excuse my ignorance , Im not even sure if a Korg triton is a sequencer or a keyboard or whatever. Are the soundfont/samples available for download somewhere? If you have the time please explain and help the rest of us :) Once again---Awesome drums--
Thanks for the opportunity to ear your creations.
 
No problem man. I'm actually very glad to hear they are so convincing, because I have to make do in this apartment :D .

The Korg Triton is a keyboard with some pretty good samples...and a good number of them at that. When I first started doing this last winter I would pound out all the drum parts on the keys, which is...well really hard, especially since I'm not a drummer. But as I started to learn about midi, the possibilities began to show themselves. Now all I do is use Sonar's piano roll to compose each note I want played, and send that midi data to the Korg, which plays the parts and sends them out through 1/4" jacks into my Delta/Omni soundcard, with Sonar recording it as audio. From there I Eq, add reverb, whatever...
It's not exactly a 10 minute process, but I'm enjoying the results. I'm actually remixing "Run for Your Life" right now, because the mids in the gits were ballistic. But I really LOVE...LOVE Sonar's flexibility. It just takes a little imagination.
Hope that helps some.
 
Sluice, I liked your song, Rhythms. Good guitar work and good job drum programming. If you've seen any of my posts, I've been pretty immersed in drum recording. I have my friend's set here at my house and quite know a few drummers, so I've really been into it. I agree with you about Sonar's flexibility. Most of my compositions start with drum tracks I create in piano roll view, also. Cut n paste, baby. I have a decent drum module an did a bunch of stuff like that too.

BTW, I noticed your post in the mic forum regarding vocal mics. I recorded vocs for a long time with a Peavey HD-40, which is an SM-58 clone. Got decent results, but I decided to get a large diaphragm condenser. I'm cheap, so I got a Marshall V67 for $99. I don't regret it. I'm not a singer though, so you may be picky about what sounds right for your voice.

There's a lot that's been posted about this mic in the mic forum.
 
ChuckU- hey thanks for the listen and for the mic tips.

One of the things I'm learning a lot about right now is EQing in Sonar. Very sensitive. It's making it hard for me to determine how much is mic and how much is just my EQing...
So I'm taking it slow, and learning from people like yourself.

Thanks again!
 
wow! great vocals

A very real trip back in time thanks I enjoyed it very much. Nice work!
 
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wfaraoni said:
A very real trip back in time thanks I enjoyed it very much. Nice work!
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Thanks. Was the time travel just from the "sound," or do you actually happen to know this song? If so, that probably makes me and you the only ones. :)
 
Since this thread is up and running again, here goes...

I'm writing music for a play/show (the norwegian word is "revy", don't know the english one): Here' goes: http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~ognedal/ruka.html. I wouldn't say this is the type of music I normally write, but what the heck... The third song is not finished yet, and you wouldn't understand the lyrics on the second one (it's in norwegian), but the first is instrumental...
 
Hey, dachay! Very good sounding MP3s! You know your way around Sonar, that's for shure!

I really liked the á cappella song! Great singing, man! (But did I detect a little Autotune? ;) )
 
At 50 years I can recall singing the first three in my car between lights while driving around Long Island, if you know what I mean. I did not know the forth one however. Theres a few other olsters out here on this board as well. Your voice sounds like a young mans. Did you do all the parts yourself, if so, do you have that much range or did you pitch shift to get that? On a critical note,It also seemed that the bass was a little overdriven at times causing some distortion in an otherwise perfect vocal performance. And the keyboard sounds might benefit from some soundfont changes. Where is the Under the Boardwalk song, it will fit right in.
 
wfaraoni - wow, you listened to all four? You have tremendous stamina. :) The 4th, btw, is an original, which is why you didn't know it.

I don't do all the parts, and I don't sing the lead. Depending on the particualr song, there are three or four different voices. Dyingly Sad, for ex. has 3 voices with a 4th part overdubbed. The lead singer does have a young voice, but he's 55 and smokes. Can you believe it?

As for the overdriven bass, are you specifically speaking of Dyingly Sad? If so, it seems to depend on the playback system. I heard a "problem" for the first time last night playing it on one of my friends systems. It had sounded great on everything else I've played it on before that. I already had a low-end roll off on the bass at 30 Hz, I just raised it to 50 Hz to see if that gets rid of it. Problem is I have to go back to his house to try it before I'll know for sure. :)

moskus - thanks. Autotune was used on the a cappella song, but just to touch up a note or two. I personally don't think you can hear it. My guess is if you are hearing it through most of the song, what you are actually hearing is a chorus effect I put on the voices. I had this same debate when I posted that song in the mp3 clinic awhile back.

BTW, when I have more time I will check out your stuff. My slooooooooooooow modem makes downloads very painful. I have to start them and then go cook dinner. By the time I've eaten and the dishes are done, the song is usually finished downloading. :)
 
Hey, moskus. I listened to Kromatica - the Ruka beat. Pretty cool. I assume everything midi. Was it all done in Sonar? What are you using for samples? The snare sounded pretty real.

I was going to download the one with vocals as well, but when I saw it was 8 megs, it scare me off. Man I got to get me a cable modem or dsl. I'm just so damn cheap, cause the only thing I really need it for is downloading .mp3's from you guys. :D

BTW, what is the voice saying. It sounds like "Dear God", but I suspect it's something in Norweigian.
 
Thanks, Dachay!

Everything is actually not midi, but some is. The Drums are constructed from two Soundfonts: GoldDrums and Kit07 (from creative.com). I used 4 snares, 2 kicks and 3 hihats...

The first thing you hear is a recorded bass-line with some added overdrive (Amp Sim). Then the drums and guitars kick in. On the guitars I used a VST-effect called Stutter (found it somewhere for free). The synth "lead" is the Triangle II, and that whooshy synth you hear later is also a Soundfont. And the last guitar was recorded with some of my many guitar effects...

The whole thing was done in Sonar. Only "mastered" it in SoundForge...

And the voice (mine, actually) is saying "RUKA". It's the name of the play I made it for...
 
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